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Apr 20, 2010 05:08 |  #1

I have some homework for my photography class I can't come across. I need to take several pictures of a composition of 3 objects (that I can arrange however I want) such that the picture is the same all the time (same distance, same light). In pic #1 all 3 objects are in focus, in pic #2 only objects 1 and 2 are in focus, in pic #3 only objects 2 and 3 are in focus and in pic #4, and here is the problem, only 1 and 3 are in focus. I initially thought I could place the objects in a triangle disposition but still, pic #4 wouldn't work... How could I place them and play with the diafragm/focal distance/focal leght so that I can take all 4 pics??? (Note: I do not have a tilt shift lens)

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Apr 20, 2010 07:54 |  #2

Just change the aperture to something smaller(ie bigger F number eg f11).

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Apr 20, 2010 09:34 |  #3

I think Marta understands DOF. The problem here is that the teacher gave an assignment that is like a puzzle. If you read the assignment it seems like the issue is which objects are in focus when.

Marta needs to figure out the solution. I think Marta knows how to control DOF. But to have objects 1 and 2 in focus in one picture and objects 1 and 3 in focus in another, seems impossible.


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Apr 20, 2010 09:36 |  #4

it seems the only way to do this would be to merge 2 images. i assume this isnt allowed. other than that, either your teacher is ****ing with you or he/she expects you to come back with an answer as to why it cant be done.


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Apr 20, 2010 10:56 |  #5

If the photos don't have to be taken from the same location, arrange objects, take 1-3, move around table, take 4.

You could get real literal with the rules ya know. No implied guidelines = open to interpretation = outside the box.




  
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Apr 20, 2010 11:03 |  #6

Are you allowed to use a tilt-shift lens?


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Apr 20, 2010 11:16 |  #7

Josepi wrote in post #10030631 (external link)
If the photos don't have to be taken from the same location, arrange objects, take 1-3, move around table, take 4.

You could get real literal with the rules ya know. No implied guidelines = open to interpretation = outside the box.

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I need to take several pictures of a composition of 3 objects (that I can arrange however I want) such that the picture is the same all the time (same distance, same light).


seems like he/she needs to set up the shot and frame it exactly the same way for each shot. same picture, different focus. no rearranging the objects.

and if your teacher expects you to spend money on a t/s lens, they are crazy.


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Apr 20, 2010 11:43 |  #8

Can one of the objects be swinging from a string? :)


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Apr 20, 2010 11:48 |  #9

tracknut wrote in post #10030891 (external link)
Can one of the objects be swinging from a string? :)


love it. very creative thinking.


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Apr 20, 2010 11:53 |  #10

A cheap way of getting soft focus when I was taking film was to smear a little vaseline on the lens, and you could use that technique here.

You could set your aperture so that all three objects are in focus, and then smear a little vaseline on your lens (actually I would use a filter) where item 2 is, thus rendering it out of focus but leaving the other two in focus.


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Apr 20, 2010 13:19 |  #11

not sure this answers your question, but don't forget to shoot staight down at the objects from above to solve a requirement!

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Apr 20, 2010 13:37 |  #12

Love that string idea.


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Apr 20, 2010 16:53 |  #13

Josepi wrote in post #10030631 (external link)
If the photos don't have to be taken from the same location, arrange objects, take 1-3, move around table, take 4...

That's what I was thinking. Have all three objects in an equilateral triangle. Take shot #1 from wherever, using a small aperture to get them all in focus (or from overhead, so they're all on the same focal plane. Take shot #2 from the side of the triangle where #1 and #2 are the same distance from lens. Take shot #3 from the side where #2 and #3 are the same distance, then move around and take shot #4 from the position where #1 and #3 are at the same distance.


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