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Which is 5D, which is G11?

 
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Apr 24, 2010 13:19 |  #1

I shot the same scene with my 5D + 24-70L and the G11 to see how much of a difference there was between the final images.

The 5D image was shot RAW, processed in LR3 with a bit of contrast boost, saturation boost and sharpening, all designed to match the look of the JPG from the G11. It was then converted to 1500 x 1200 JPG image.

The G11 image was shot JPG and cropped to a 4x6 aspect ratio in LR3. It was then converted to 1500 x 1200 JPG image.

I then viewed the images at an appropriate distance of about 40". Remember a computer display is about 100 ppi while printers are more dense (250 dpi) so you have to back up 2.5 or 3 times your normal 4x6 viewing distance for them to be equivalent.

When I compare the 2 images at that distance, I don't see enough difference to matter.

What do you see?

UPDATE ---

I replaced the files with crops that represent 1024 out of 1500 pixels. Essentially what you see is the center 2/3 of a 4x6 print.


IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

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Apr 24, 2010 13:37 |  #2

This is hard, even though you say the topic is useless.
With the risk of making a complete ass of myself, I'll venture a guess:

I'm seeing more detail, higher contrast and better colors in the top one, my guess is that top is 5D, bottom is G11.


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Apr 24, 2010 13:40 |  #3

I see a tad more detail in the top one so I'd say the 5D is the top.


I think for outdoors you can get great shots with any camera. It's the lowlight indoor and portraits that make a high end camera really shine, IMO.


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Apr 24, 2010 13:41 |  #4

I dont know. They look the exact same. Goes to show you can take the exact same boring picture of the exact same boring subject. I think I knew this already...


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Apr 24, 2010 13:41 |  #5

The 5D image was shot RAW, processed in LR3 with a bit of contrast boost, saturation boost and sharpening, all designed to match the look of the JPG from the G11.

So you are wondering on how good of a job you did at making the 5D look like it was taken with a P&S? Kind of an odd thing to try and do but I guess if that is what makes you happy.


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Apr 24, 2010 13:47 |  #6

This is very easy question to answer! Just one glimpse of these 2 pictures, and I could tell which came from which.

The 1st picture came from 5Dc

The 2nd picture came from G11

If you look at the 1st picture, there is that crap (dust on the sensor) on upper top right corner of the center tree. Darn Dust magnet! :-)


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Apr 24, 2010 13:47 |  #7

bottom pic has more details on the siding of the "right" house. This could be a focus point difference.

I'm gonna sell my Dslr gear and buy me a p/s :P


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Apr 24, 2010 13:49 |  #8

top image has a narrower DOF, look at the black thing in the ground.

5d is top image.




  
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Apr 24, 2010 13:50 |  #9

AWGD8 wrote in post #10057543 (external link)
This is very easy question to answer! Just one glimpse of these 2 pictures, and I could tell which came from which.

The 1st picture came from 5Dc

The 2nd picture came from G11

If you look at the 1st picture, there is that crap (dust on the sensor) on upper top right corner of the center tree. Darn Dust magnet! :-)

Nice call. Or maybe it's a frikkin' bird ;)


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Apr 24, 2010 14:02 as a reply to  @ anj273's post |  #10

Looks like the 5D pic is on top.


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Apr 24, 2010 14:04 |  #11

anj273 wrote in post #10057560 (external link)
Nice call. Or maybe it's a frikkin' bird ;)


That was my thought. Looks like a bird.

Comparisons like this are silly. The P&S has the advantage of being small and portable -- that's about it. In every other area, a DSLR has decided advantages.

Low-light: DSLR wins.
Shallow DoF for subject isolation: DSLR
Speed, shutter lag, fps: DSLR
Prints: DSLR
etc.

There are reasons we carry around these (comparatively) huge cameras.



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Apr 24, 2010 14:14 |  #12

AWGD8 wrote in post #10057543 (external link)
This is very easy question to answer! Just one glimpse of these 2 pictures, and I could tell which came from which.

The 1st picture came from 5Dc

The 2nd picture came from G11

If you look at the 1st picture, there is that crap (dust on the sensor) on upper top right corner of the center tree. Darn Dust magnet! :-)

You need a new computer and a monitor. Even with my iPhone, I knew it was a bird. :)


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Apr 24, 2010 14:21 |  #13

Ha ha ! I'm using ipod touch! LOL! Actually, the image texture on the 1st pic resembles some of my shots.

Separation of wood house and the background is pastel or crayola looking. That is FF!


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Apr 24, 2010 14:27 |  #14

AdamLewis wrote in post #10057522 (external link)
I dont know. They look the exact same. Goes to show you can take the exact same boring picture of the exact same boring subject. I think I knew this already...


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Apr 24, 2010 15:09 |  #15

OK, I went back and cropped the original images to 2/3 their size. Then exported them as 1024 pixel wide JPG. This simulates a 4" wide print at 250 dpi.

Again, you need to be back from your monitor around 40" to get the same perspective as a 4x6 print.

When I do that, I don't see a diff. My conclusion? For photographing my neighbor's house in good light and reproducing as a 4x6 print, the 5D offers no IQ advantage.


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