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Apr 25, 2010 17:56 |  #1

Took a trip up to north-central PA for a fossil dig. The state park offers a half-way decent overlook of the Susquehanna River. I took a bunch of shots but some of them just don't look right back home here. The sky was a bit washed out with a lot of high cirrus clouds and the trees weren't as green as I thought they'd be. I'd appreciated any expert opinions as to what I'm doing wrong. Images have been reduced in size but otherwise are straight from the camera.

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Appreciate any useful criticisms..thanks

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Apr 25, 2010 21:18 |  #2

I can't help much with the "washouts" of sky and colors in trees, but on first glance I think you will get a lot of "buy a circular polarizer" comments as polarization tends to cut out glare.

But, as for composition, I would think if the sky is not that attractive, AND you are wanting to pull our attention to the scenic view, I would think you could all but cut out the sky. In other words crop out that sky and let the horizon sit about 10% below the very top of the image.

Then, if I could shoot your shot, I would have composed it that way IN CAMERA and spot meter the trees or river. Maybe bracket your shots by using the auto-bracketing feature (provided you have one) or taking the shot automatically and looking at the f/stop setting and shutter speed, and adjusting the shutter speed a little slower and then a little faster for 3 shots of varying exposure. Then, go home and play with all three and make a memory note of which you tend to like better....a little overexposed or a little underexposed. For color, I tend to shoot -2/3 stops underexposed to get the richest color I can.

In other words, say you want an f/stop of f/11. You shoot the shot with the shutter the camera gives you from Av mode..say a shutter speed of 1/500. Then, you switch to manual (M) and remember to set the f/stop to f/11. Set your shutter to 1/500 and give it a click, two, or three slower and take another shot. Then, click back to 1/500 and click the same number of clicks faster and take another shot. You have three exposures that are fairly close together, and can play with them back home on the computer.

That said, pano's 2 and 5 look pretty well colored to me for the daylight you were shooting in. Oops, that's another thing. Tend to shoot at daybreak or sunset when possible. The lower angle of the sun gives better lighting, color, and more dramatic effects with shadows and what not.

Hope that helped.


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Straightening...lol. Every time I straighten the horizon, I hang the picture crooked.

  
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Apr 26, 2010 09:18 as a reply to  @ chopper5654's post |  #3

I like #3 for composition, the ridgeline leads your eye down to the green fields. Theres lots that can be salvaged from your shots, this was a 2 min. attempt. I didn't play with the noise or sharpening, mostly just adjusted Exposure,Recovery,Cont​rast, in LR. My edit is not an attempt to say this is how it should look(it's not) merely a quick edit to give you an idea of what might still be in your pictures but needs to be brought out. Shooting mid day is always a challenge.

I think you overexposed by 1 stop on most of this.


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Apr 27, 2010 22:03 |  #4

Thanks for the comments! I have most Circ. polarizers for most of my lenses, but for some reason neglected to use them. And I don't have one for the 10-22, which I think I used a lot up there. - I guess I'm used to using them with water reflections, but hadn't really considered them for light skies. And yeah, I was shooting right around 11:30 am so it was harsh too. Thanks again, will try to get better next time!.


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Apr 28, 2010 07:41 |  #5

Don't worry so much about time of day....we get what we get. But, you have to expect the shots to have less drama and come out more snapshotty when shooting landscapes at high noon. This past summer, my family and I went to Myrtle Beach, SC....a place we never had been and likely wouldn't go back due to wanting to adventure to more places. My shooting times were extrememly limited, and I had to take what I could get for a lot of my shots...that turned out kind of bland.

Funny how things work when we don't take dedicated trips, or haven't chosen photography as a career. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense to hang around 5 hours until sunset....lol.


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Apr 28, 2010 16:45 |  #6

After going through some of the other shots I took I found a couple that didn't turn out too bad. I went out early in the AM to look around - until the sun came up over the hills there were some interesting angles. My GND probably should have come in to play in a few places but there's always next time....

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Road Cut along the N/E extension of the PA Turnpike. (from inside a moving car..
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