which body?

so i want to upgrade my body soonish, just for the sake of upgrading, any i am trying to decide which route i should go with.

I am going to get some better glass before i upgrade my body since that is ultimately more important and ive kind of got my choices mapped out.
Anyway, i am trying to decide whether to get a used 1d MkII/1d MkII N or a 7d.

I love to just walk around and shoot but i also work for the paper at the college i go to and will soon(probably starting january 2011) have an internship at the county newspaper. So i shoot a lot of sports but also lower light events(most of which it's fine if i use a flash).

Anyway i would love if you could chime in and help me make my decision

***btw i would love to go full frame but i need the fps and really dont mind the extra reach a crop gives me so lets eliminate all suggestions of the 5d/5d mkII***

I made a similar decision a while back and went with the 1D2 with absolutely no regrets. I wanted the 45 autofocus points, didn't care about video, and the 1D2 still outperformed the 7D when I used them together tracking fast birds in flight, which was the biggest selling point for me. The ISO performance on the 7D was much better than on the 1D2.

For the price now, you can get a used 1D3 for the price of a 7D, which is even better. The 1D3's ISO performance is much better than the 1D2. The LCD on the 1D2 sucks, but the LCD on the 1D3 is excellent.

EMartinPhoto wrote in post #10081823
For the price now, you can get a used 1D3 for the price of a 7D, which is even better. The 1D3's ISO performance is much better than the 1D2. The LCD on the 1D2 sucks, but the LCD on the 1D3 is excellent.

how does the 1D3's ISO compare to the 7d's?

Also i agree, i have 0 use for video. It's "cute" to have but i cant envision myself actually using it more than a handful of times

Check out here: http://www.the-digital-picture.com …al-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx

There is a comparison between the 1Ds2 and 1D3 in ISO. The 1D2's ISO is comparable to the 1Ds2. I'm not sure how the 7D and 1D3 compare... I'd do some googling and see what you can find.

I can tell you that the 7D's high speed tracking leaves a lot to be desired at least in my experience by comparison to the 1D series. The 7D had a really hard time locking onto moving targets flying low, but once it did, seemed to hold it well. My 1D2 locks on and stays locked much faster.

thanks a lot. more input would be fantastic

My recommendation is the 7D unless you can find good deal on 1D mark iii.

7D takes some very nice pictures and smaller than the 1D bodies. Also the little pop up flash comes in handy sometimes.

If I had funds for only one body, I would personally pick 7D.

kmtyb wrote in post #10082838
My recommendation is the 7D unless you can find good deal on 1D mark iii.

7D takes some very nice pictures and smaller than the 1D bodies. Also the little pop up flash comes in handy sometimes.

If I had funds for only one body, I would personally pick 7D.

no doubt that that 7d can take some great photos. As far as the size of the 1d, thats one of the perks in my mind of getting one. I have big hands and i held my friends old 1d mkI and it was very comfortable. I also like the ability to shoot in portrait position so comfortably (i know i could get a 7d grip but thats just another expense)

i would still like more opinions though. Anyone have both and want to give me the pros and cons of each, etc. etc. etc.

You can buy a used 1D mark iii for under 2k. I personally like the feel and weight on the 1D bodies also.

Pro's of 1D mark iii vs 7D
1D body size and weight feels right in my hands
Feels like a full frame but has some reach if needed (best of both worlds?)
I like the 1D files little bit better than the 7D
high ISO pictures come out little bit nicer on the 1D
Autofocus seems little bit faster on 1D
10 frames vs 8 frames
crazy battery life (3000+)


7D has vs 1D mark iii..
Built in Flash
Built in Flash Master
Video
Better LCD
Portability
Greater reach 1.6 crop vs 1.3
better cropping power
c1 c2 c3 customize settings on the dial

If it helps any i went through the same debate a little while back and i remember that thread had a lot of valuable information in it IMO. I think that thread should cover all your 1D3 vs. 7D questions. Here it is albeit a bit long to read:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=809440

Hope this helps you.

thanks a lot.

so you guys would really suggest staying away from a MkII or MkII N ?