Steve Jobs pens open letter about Flash

To be fair, the plugin sucked as hard or harder than it does now, long before Adobe had any ideas of buying Macromedia.

If anything, I feel sorry for Adobe as they got a company with lots of stuff, but in the end didn't really come away with anything.

Here's a sad story about life:

http://newslite.tv …ed-one-of-the-worlds.html

Apparently the Apple iPhone is the 8th most important device - ever! Beating out Space travel, the combustion engine and even toilet paper.

Wow.

the real tragedy is how in the world did sliced bread only make 70th place?!

The next version of Android (which is set to release in a couple of months) will support Flash. I believe that Apple wants to push HTML5, but they are more interested in keeping their Itunes game playing infrastructure together. Flash games on the web threaten that. If flash is so bad, why don't they just lock out flash on all of their laptops, since they are so concerned about battery life? I personally think it should be the choice of the user.

HTML5 support cross browser is miles off, it works differently in FF and safari and not at all in ie8..ie9 alledgedy will support it but they haven't got rid of all the ie6 users yet.

If they could only stop flash progammers writing bad bloaty code and get the player not to use 100% cpu flash would be perfect.

Todd Lambert wrote in post #10204746
Beating out Space travel, the combustion engine and even toilet paper.

No surprise when 1 billion people still ride camels and wipe their asses with bare hand

alt4852 wrote in post #10204809
the real tragedy is how in the world did sliced bread only make 70th place?!

Because knife made 36th place and normal people know how to use it without cutting themselves

Sorry if this is covered already.

I think Jobs wants HTML5 video over flash video as Apple with MS are pushing to make H.264 the standard for video in html5. Originally it was going to be Ogg Theora a true open standard, but Apple and MS put a stop to that and are pushing the MPEG LA format (H.264) becuase they will both get royalties from everyone who uses it when its temporary free period expires. (They could bring that forward any time they like, ie. once we are all using it)..

I do not believe he cares less about open standards he just wants you to use the closed standards his company has patents on and will benefit from, but he pretends it is all about being 'open'.. Hypocrisy at its best..

joele wrote in post #10206781
I do not believe he cares less about open standards he just wants you to use the closed standards his company has patents on and will benefit from, but he pretends it is all about being 'open'.. Hypocrisy at its best..

Bang! You've hit the nail on the head.

And Jobs knows the isheep are his captive audience - they'll go along with anything their shepherd says.

joele wrote in post #10206781
Sorry if this is covered already.

I think Jobs wants HTML5 video over flash video as Apple with MS are pushing to make H.264 the standard for video in html5. Originally it was going to be Ogg Theora a true open standard, but Apple and MS put a stop to that and are pushing the MPEG LA format (H.264) becuase they will both get royalties from everyone who uses it when its temporary free period expires. (They could bring that forward any time they like, ie. once we are all using it)..

Reminds me of the cigarette companies giving GIs free cigs during WW2. Free now, but wait tell the addiction starts. Come 2015, I bet developers are going to be paying the piper -- license fees. It's a joke that people think that Jobs thinks only of saving us from the evil Mr. Flash. This letter is marketing ploy to move folks over to H.264, which would be a cash cow for Apple -- collecting license fees are pure profit.

Here's open video (The real one): http://arstechnica.com …o-nuke-h264-with-webm.ars

Tony-S wrote in post #10198210
Your complaints are with the RIAA, not Apple. They are who insisted that iPods be one-direction devices from an "authorized computer". Part of that lovely DRM crap.

I have owned numerous devices over the years with no such stipulations.

There is no guarantee the H.264 will have to be paid for after its current license expires. It's up to whatever organization developed it.

I don't see how an iPod is related to the internet.

Whatever you make of Jobs' letter, Flash is an inefficient and clunky implementation that, in its current state, has no place in mobile devices.

toxic wrote in post #10211241
There is no guarantee the H.264 will have to be paid for after its current license expires. It's up to whatever organization developed it.

Not a good place to put yourself in, especially when it's all in.

toxic wrote in post #10211241
There is no guarantee the H.264 will have to be paid for after its current license expires. It's up to whatever organization developed it.

It is up to the Patent holding group, which includes companies like MS, APPLE and SONY, I don't doubt they will charge licences we obviously didn't learn our lessons from GIF and MP3. OGG Theora is a safer bet, although Jobs has already threatened that true open standard.

"A patent pool is being assembled to go after Theora and other “open source” codecs now."

mmm Assembled with his companies involvement? gotta love Steve Jobs and Software Patents.

Though in way it is right that no-one can develop a video player on a pc without infringing someone's patents. Software patents in the US are so broad and ridiculous that you can patent the most benign things and if your a big corporation it is a great way of stopping new entrants in the markets in which you compete. Only Mega patent holders can compete as they can agree to not sue each other, everyone else is screwed, best way to stifle competition.

Broad patents are bad for consumers too - http://blogs.techrepub​lic.com.com/tr-out-loud/?p=1903

another reason why apple is trying to make money off it's customers

joele wrote in post #10206781
I do not believe he cares less about open standards he just wants you to use the closed standards his company has patents on and will benefit from, but he pretends it is all about being 'open'.. Hypocrisy at its best..

Does Apple pretend to be open? I have always considered Apple products to be the most "closed" of any on the planet - which is why I avoid them like the plague.