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Apr 30, 2010 09:52 as a reply to  @ post 10095267 |  #31

Wow! :cool: Very nice! :)


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Apr 30, 2010 10:21 |  #32

No fair, I sold off my bees when I did my pre-order (still waiting), now I'm lightless, and here you are with einstein's and Eli's coming out your ears! Hand 'em over!




  
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Apr 30, 2010 11:12 |  #33

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BTW, what's the difference between the spill kill and the PLM reflectors? I thought there was only one, so thanks for the photos...

According to PCB the spill kill is about a 210 degree "beam" (can you call it a beam when it's that wide?) while the PLM reflector is 180 degrees.

Tetrode, if you have a chance, I'd be really interested in seeing the spread of light produced by each reflector on an Einstein shot at a wall at, say, 4 feet. I'm on the pre-order list for some Einsteins and am looking at using one of these two reflectors to illuminate white seamless (one on each side). I'm thinking the spill kill is too wide but if the coverage is better I could always flag it if necessary.


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Apr 30, 2010 11:47 |  #34

DerekW wrote in post #10095476 (external link)
No fair, I sold off my bees when I did my pre-order (still waiting), now I'm lightless, and here you are with einstein's and Eli's coming out your ears! Hand 'em over!

Don't forget the 4 Visicos (3 VC-300, 1 VC-500) and 2 Genesis 200s :)

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Apr 30, 2010 11:55 |  #35

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According to PCB the spill kill is about a 210 degree "beam" (can you call it a beam when it's that wide?) while the PLM reflector is 180 degrees.

Tetrode, if you have a chance, I'd be really interested in seeing the spread of light produced by each reflector on an Einstein shot at a wall at, say, 4 feet. I'm on the pre-order list for some Einsteins and am looking at using one of these two reflectors to illuminate white seamless (one on each side). I'm thinking the spill kill is too wide but if the coverage is better I could always flag it if necessary.

You'd be surprised how difficult it is around here finding a suitable wall to do these tests. Really. I am also very curious about he dispersion pattern of each of the reflectors so I'll see what I can come up with.

The PLM reflector looks very odd to me. I don't see how it's vertical sidewalls can help throw light into the PLM umbrella. At least not optimally. The Spill Kill reflector, on the othe hand, with its super-wide dispersion permits very close placement of a standard photographic umbrella's canopy to the light. In other words, the umbrella shaft can be slid well into the Einstein's umbrella tube to the point that the front edge of the reflector is just about even with edge of the umbrella fabric. Maybe that positioning does not work well with the PLMs which may require that the light source be situated further away.

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Apr 30, 2010 12:02 |  #36

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You won't have any problems...a few folks have done this already....

But not with the Einstein as far as I know. I did follow Beverly Guhl's postings (as did you) with interest five or six months ago. She posted photos of her Franken-Bee:

http://www.fredmiranda​.com …43963/1&year=20​09#7783470 (external link)

The Einstein has a re-engineered mount and a differently positioned flash tube compared to earlier Bees. I'm pretty certain all will be well but I still want to try it for myself.

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Apr 30, 2010 12:12 as a reply to  @ tetrode's post |  #37

Dave,
Can you take off the dome and confirm the flash tube position has changed?
From what I understand they just added a frosted dome, but the placement flash tube itself has not changed....


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Apr 30, 2010 12:53 |  #38

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Dave,
Can you take off the dome and confirm the flash tube position has changed?
From what I understand they just added a frosted dome, but the placement flash tube itself has not changed....

You may be right, Jerry. I'm just repeating what I've read; you, on the other hand, are an actual Alien Bee user.

Here's the Einstein domeless:

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Apr 30, 2010 12:57 |  #39

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can you take a shot of the csxcv port? do you take off the csxcv during storage of the lights?

Here ya go:

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I'm not so sure it's a great idea having both the transceiver socket and the micro-SD card slot exposed like that, expecially the normally vacant micro-SD slot.

I think I'll be storing my Einsteins with the transceivers removed. I'll have to find a nice little foam-lined plastic box for them to live in. Suggestions?

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Apr 30, 2010 13:04 |  #40

tetrode wrote in post #10096080 (external link)
But not with the Einstein as far as I know. I did follow Beverly Guhl's postings (as did you) with interest five or six months ago.

Good point. Looks like the tube is the same distance though and if anything the dome should help the dispersion (the tube sits inside the reflector after the adapter on a regular AB), so I'm not overly worried...

Can't say I like the receiver pin design either...something like an SD card w/ more contact surface area will generally wear down better and is also less prone to bending issues...


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Apr 30, 2010 13:17 |  #41

I just wanted to confirm the tube was not set back closer to the face plate than the AB....Looks good!
Thanks for the images. Dave


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Apr 30, 2010 13:29 |  #42

Thanks for the photos Dave! They answered my questions in regards to the CSXCV. I have a favor to ask from you.

- Can you please measure (in metric system) the dimensions of the Einsteins with the protective dome attached? I'm already thinking of a pelican storage solution for them. I want to have 2 einsteins + 1 vagabond II snug in 1 pelican + their cables, and i will have two of these kits. If i only need 1 at a time, I will only carry one set.
- Can you please measure (in metric system) the dimensions of the CSXCV?

I think that's all I can ask for. Thank you sooo much!!!

tetrode wrote in post #10096414 (external link)
I'm not so sure it's a great idea having both the transceiver socket and the micro-SD card slot exposed like that, expecially the normally vacant micro-SD slot.

Exactly. I was hoping that there would be some sort of rubber caps for them (just the newer canon cameras that accept the WFT grip. But for 439.99, what can we come to expect?

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I think I'll be storing my Einsteins with the transceivers removed. I'll have to find a nice little foam-lined plastic box for them to live in. Suggestions?

Well to store my cybersyncs, I use an ebay 24-slot Jewelery / Bead case. It works quite well to store 4 CSRBS, 1 CST, and an 4 PW to Vivitar cables. I will probably swap the cables out, and place the CSXCV in there; which is why I need to know the sizes of the CSXCV.

Here's some photos of what my case looks like. It's a really nice case and its actually quite impressive and compact for what it stores.

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Apr 30, 2010 13:48 |  #43

^^^what eBay seller did you buy that case from? It's perfect!

Edit: I found this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com …ain_0&hash=item​2eaca5f9d4 (external link)


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Apr 30, 2010 13:54 |  #44

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^^^what eBay seller did you buy that case from? It's perfect!

Edit: I found this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com …ain_0&hash=item​2eaca5f9d4 (external link)

It's pretty close to perfect. I wish the middle dividers were removable. I want go store the cyber commander in one of these cases.


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