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May 02, 2010 01:17 |  #76

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I saw your comment about Avenger studs vs. White Lightning sockets in the C-stand thread, Leo, which is why I invoked your moniker here. I guess the Einstein mount socket has been deepened by 1 to 1-1/2 tads because it just manages to ingest the Avenger stud's shoulder. If this was a conscious engineering decision on the part of PCB, I'd commend him/them for good attention to detail. Then again, maybe they just got lucky with their mount fabricator.

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Lol. I'm glad that you posted this because I just got mine. LOL. I'll be ordering another avenger stand. Should it be in black or chrome?


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I would like to hear any info about mixing older Bees with the new Einsteins?

Pro and cons... color differences... loss/gain of features.


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May 02, 2010 18:18 as a reply to  @ dmccabe's post |  #78

I did a quick test this afternoon to see how the Einstein's various reflectors would perform with one of my 43" Steve Kaeser umbrella boxes. The test setup was simple, I just set the Einstein to -5.5 stops power output and photographed the front panel of the umbrella using the Spill Kill reflector, the PLM reflector, the 8.5" grid reflector, and no reflector at all.

Here's the Einstein and the Steve Kaeser umbrella box:

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And here's a composite of the test results:

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I don't know about you, but I would have expected less hotspotting with the Spill Kill reflector and with no reflector at all. A pronounced hotspot is always in evidence.

The PLM reflector is oddly shaped; like a small, round deep-dish pizza pan. The pattern it threw is not surprising. The 8.5" grid reflector also performed as expected. I felt it was fair to include it in the comparison since it does have a hole in it for an umbrella shaft to pass through.

Based on this test, it would appear that the Spill Kill reflector is indeed the best bet for umbrella use. That it doesn't really out-perform the 90-degree Elinchrom reflector is surprising (to me) but not a problem. When flash power is raised to more practical levels, the hotspot is no longer visible. Here's the umbrella face at -2 stops power output level:

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Note that the Einstein is performing in this umbrella test very much like all of my other lights have performed. That is to say, it produces a central hotspot that will undoubtedly have no adverse impact in real world usage.

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May 08, 2010 02:19 |  #79

I never got the chance to say thank you for the testing that you've done.

Can you give your opinion on the Cyber Commander? It's my turn and I'm not sure if I see the value in the Cyber Commnader.

If you can talk about the cyber commander and answer the following questions, that would be GREAT! :D
-Do you find it to be useful?
-What are the Pros and Cons?
-How is the battery life?
-How is the screen and overall product quality?

I just really want to know your opinion as I trust those who are as picky as i am when it comes to gear.

Please let me know ASAP.

So far it's 2 Einsteins, 1 Vagabond II, 2 8.5" reflectors, 2 sets of 8.5" honeycomb grids. If I decide to go with the Cyber commanders, I will have to add 2 CSXCVs and 1 CC.


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May 08, 2010 09:00 |  #80

Hey marloon, what number are you on the pre-order list?

And get the commander, it really is the heart of the einstein system. Full complete control in the palm of your hand. Easily reproducible set ups time after time. the only negative thing I've even heard about the CC is that the screen is a little small because it shows all 8 channels, but it is bright and clear and the quality is good, having the CST is a nice option.
I have the commander, but only had it for a week and sold my bees to wait for the Einstein's.




  
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May 08, 2010 13:02 |  #81

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Hey marloon, what number are you on the pre-order list?

And get the commander, it really is the heart of the einstein system. Full complete control in the palm of your hand. Easily reproducible set ups time after time. the only negative thing I've even heard about the CC is that the screen is a little small because it shows all 8 channels, but it is bright and clear and the quality is good, having the CST is a nice option.
I have the commander, but only had it for a week and sold my bees to wait for the Einstein's.

As I was about to hit order, I realized that I cannot afford the CC system just yet. $240 for the CC + 2 CSXCVs is just a bit too over my budget right now.

I am going to start with 2 Einsteins, 1 8.5" reflector, 1 8.5" grid set (15 + 30 degrees), and 1 Vagabond II. I'll use that with two modifiers: 1 photoflex medium softbox and 1 Kacey BD + grid. What do you guys think?

As I get more income this summer, I'll add as I see fit.


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May 08, 2010 15:28 |  #82

That'll definitely get you going, you can accomplish a million things with just that




  
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May 08, 2010 18:56 as a reply to  @ DerekW's post |  #83

Oh and the preorder number? They are in the early 500s now.


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May 09, 2010 22:40 |  #84

Dave, what's your verdict thus far?

If you were starting out today would you buy the Elinchrom or Einstein strobes and why?


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May 13, 2010 00:58 |  #85

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Dave, what's your verdict thus far?

If you were starting out today would you buy the Elinchrom or Einstein strobes and why?


I'd be interested to now this as well :D


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May 13, 2010 06:30 |  #87

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