7D noise and sharpening

Im having a dilemma the 7D is so noisy that when I want to sharpen the pictures it also sharpens the noise. Im having this experience at all ISO levels, even ISO 100. anybody have any tips?

roger767 wrote in post #10106201
Im having a dilemma the 7D is so noisy that when I want to sharpen the pictures it also sharpens the noise. Im having this experience at all ISO levels, even ISO 100. anybody have any tips?

post some pics. Be sure not to underexpose.

full size
http://farm4.static.fl​ickr.com …70552137_af8300​8757_o.jpg

No sharpening
http://farm5.static.fl​ickr.com …71187610_793d16​8897_o.jpg

Sharpening (in Photoshop CS5)
http://farm5.static.fl​ickr.com …71188018_08bc3a​3486_o.jpg

I can't tell much on my monitor but are you using noise reduction and are you sharpening before or after using the NR. Sharpening should be done after using NR.

Radius? Detail? Masking?

Try smart sharpen (100% 0.1) avoid USM and especially ''sharpen more''.

roger767 wrote in post #10106201
Im having a dilemma the 7D is so noisy that when I want to sharpen the pictures it also sharpens the noise. Im having this experience at all ISO levels, even ISO 100. anybody have any tips?

Why not try selective sharpening? There is no point in sharpening background noise.
Try this in Photoshop:
1/Duplicate the base layer (Control J, 8 bit only in Elements)
2/Sharpen the new layer to your liking (subject)
3/Create a new blank layer and drag it under the layer you just sharpened
4/Click on the top layer (sharpened) and press Control G to group it to the blank layer below
5/Click on the blank layer. Select a brush and "paint" the sharpening only on the areas of the image you want
6/ flatten the image layers

District_History_Fan wrote in post #10106605
Why not try selective sharpening? There is no point in sharpening background noise.
Try this in Photoshop:
1/Duplicate the base layer (Control J, 8 bit only in Elements)
2/Sharpen the new layer to your liking (subject)
3/Create a new blank layer and drag it under the layer you just sharpened
4/Click on the top layer (sharpened) and press Control G to group it to the blank layer below
5/Click on the blank layer. Select a brush and "paint" the sharpening only on the areas of the image you want
6/ flatten the image layers

Or, if you use Lightroom, use the sharpening mask to limit the effect to fine details, as defined by you.

District_History_Fan wrote in post #10106605
Why not try selective sharpening? There is no point in sharpening background noise.
Try this in Photoshop:
1/Duplicate the base layer (Control J, 8 bit only in Elements)
2/Sharpen the new layer to your liking (subject)
3/Create a new blank layer and drag it under the layer you just sharpened
4/Click on the top layer (sharpened) and press Control G to group it to the blank layer below
5/Click on the blank layer. Select a brush and "paint" the sharpening only on the areas of the image you want
6/ flatten the image layers

You can just add a mask the sharpened duplicate layer (alt/opt + mask icon in layers palette) and paint the sharpening in on the mask with a white brush.

jessartisan wrote in post #10106655
You can just add a mask the sharpened duplicate layer (alt/opt + mask icon in layers palette) and paint the sharpening in on the mask with a white brush.

Several different ways to skin a rabbit...

actually you are to obsessed with noise.
Your first image is very acceptable.
Actually i thought to myself - are you kidding me.

so far - lightroom 3beta2 has been the best match for the 7D.

Stop worrying - get off the forum for several days and go shoot!

Later,
_Mark

Ziffle wrote in post #10106720
actually you are to obsessed with noise.
Your first image is very acceptable.
Actually i thought to myself - are you kidding me.

so far - lightroom 3beta2 has been the best match for the 7D.

Stop worrying - get off the forum for several days and go shoot!

Later,
_Mark

Totally have to agree with this comment.

I thought I was pretty anal, but this seems crazy to me. No offence intended though, each to their own.

Ziffle wrote in post #10106720
actually you are to obsessed with noise.
Your first image is very acceptable.
Actually i thought to myself - are you kidding me.

so far - lightroom 3beta2 has been the best match for the 7D.

Stop worrying - get off the forum for several days and go shoot!

Later,
_Mark

Bingo! Ding Ding, we have a winner!

You are also trying to sharpen a subject that has very little contrast. You can sharpen the heck put if it, it still won't look impressively sharp because contrast and sharpness often go hand in hand. This lacks contrast (due to the nature of your subject), so any aggrassive sharpening will not be impressive.