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May 04, 2010 11:29 |  #1

Some quick edits of senior photos for Jordan.

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May 04, 2010 12:59 |  #2

nice results. In shots 1 & 3 what did you use for flash and where exactly was it? Reason I ask is that appears to be straight in line with camera and produced a very 'centered' look of direct flash.

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May 04, 2010 13:00 |  #3

Nice work.


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May 04, 2010 13:59 |  #4

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nice results. In shots 1 & 3 what did you use for flash and where exactly was it? Reason I ask is that appears to be straight in line with camera and produced a very 'centered' look of direct flash.

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It was an ab800 in an umbrella box. It actually is a little more centered than I really wanted, I'd have preferred a bit of side shadowing for definition. I opted for the "safer" option as I was losing light and I only had one chance to get these as Jordan lives over an hour away and we had postponed it twice. The flash is on a stand between she and I about 3 feet off the ground, and just out of frame camera left.

I need to replace the second as her face looks a bit soft after I posted it.




  
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May 04, 2010 15:15 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #5

nice shots.
Just wanted say thanks and am now on with the practice.


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May 05, 2010 06:51 |  #6

You'd probably get much more flattering pictures of your model with a little posing work and moving your lighting to the side at a greater angle.

Part of it might be the oily skin of a teenager, or she might have a nice tan and the flash is washing it out, but the skin tone is pretty uneven. Move your light off to the side more and have her turn her head & shoulders toward the light (in the 45 degree range), then move her eyes back toward you (like she has on #2). The angled shoulder will keep her from having the "linebacker" look with the squared shoulders. It also changes the angle/shape of her head to the cam which will give her face a more pleasing shape.

You should have her look through a posing book, even if its just pics cut out of the Nordstrom catalogue or Glamour magazine. This gives them an idea of how they might want to look or what poses they want to recreate.

The smile is another big one. For her, like most teenagers, they are all the same. I typically have a discussion with them ahead of time about the "cheese" smile versus the kind of laughing smile which looks more fun & natural. When I see the cheese smile, I'll comment and they get it. Hope this helps!


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May 05, 2010 08:41 |  #7

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You'd probably get much more flattering pictures of your model with a little posing work and moving your lighting to the side at a greater angle.

Part of it might be the oily skin of a teenager, or she might have a nice tan and the flash is washing it out, but the skin tone is pretty uneven. Move your light off to the side more and have her turn her head & shoulders toward the light (in the 45 degree range), then move her eyes back toward you (like she has on #2). The angled shoulder will keep her from having the "linebacker" look with the squared shoulders. It also changes the angle/shape of her head to the cam which will give her face a more pleasing shape.

You should have her look through a posing book, even if its just pics cut out of the Nordstrom catalogue or Glamour magazine. This gives them an idea of how they might want to look or what poses they want to recreate.

The smile is another big one. For her, like most teenagers, they are all the same. I typically have a discussion with them ahead of time about the "cheese" smile versus the kind of laughing smile which looks more fun & natural. When I see the cheese smile, I'll comment and they get it. Hope this helps!

She isnt a model, these were senior photos so there was a limit to the amount of work I could do on makeup and posing. This is her authentic smile, I tried to get some variation in her smile but that was it. This is only a quick sample of the shots, its ironic that you comment on the linebacker look as these are probably the only 2 out of 150 or so where she is actually square to the camera.




  
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May 05, 2010 08:52 |  #8

gonzogolf wrote in post #10120417 (external link)
It was an ab800 in an umbrella box. It actually is a little more centered than I really wanted, I'd have preferred a bit of side shadowing for definition. I opted for the "safer" option as I was losing light and I only had one chance to get these as Jordan lives over an hour away and we had postponed it twice. The flash is on a stand between she and I about 3 feet off the ground, and just out of frame camera left.

I need to replace the second as her face looks a bit soft after I posted it.

Thanks for the info GGolf. Appreciate hearing about the lighting setup.

Also, from yesterday's golf league round: 2 birdies, 2 triples ... in the SAME round!

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May 05, 2010 08:58 |  #9

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Thanks for the info GGolf. Appreciate hearing about the lighting setup.

Also, from yesterday's golf league round: 2 birdies, 2 triples ... in the SAME round!

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I'm in two leagues. I was 3 over on Thursday, 16 over on Monday. Its like flipping a freaking coin whether I have any game on a particular day.




  
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May 05, 2010 14:30 |  #10

I think #2 would have been better with the hay bales further to the left. That way the leg/knee color doesn't blend in as much with the hay and would stand out on the green background, but that's just a preference. Others may like it where it's at.

#3 is a little more washed out compared to #1 but I still like it. The only thing that stands out is the inverted locked elbow. I'm horrible about that but still only seem to catch it most of the time in post.


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May 05, 2010 14:34 |  #11

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I think #2 would have been better with the hay bales further to the left. That way the leg/knee color doesn't blend in as much with the hay and would stand out on the green background, but that's just a preference. Others may like it where it's at.

#3 is a little more washed out compared to #1 but I still like it. The only thing that stands out is the inverted locked elbow. I'm horrible about that but still only seem to catch it most of the time in post.

I couldnt move the bales, they were wet and the ropes were wrecked. The porch is on an old farmhouse thats on public property so I couldnt change the setup unfortunately. These were quickie edit proofs, I need to fix the skin tones where they are more consistent. I agree with the locked out elbow, she kept doing it a lot.




  
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May 05, 2010 19:54 |  #12

I agree with the above comments about flash placement like the first shot the others the lighting is just not working and the skin is rather washed out.


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May 06, 2010 03:07 |  #13

gonzogolf wrote in post #10125251 (external link)
This is only a quick sample of the shots, its ironic that you comment on the linebacker look as these are probably the only 2 out of 150 or so where she is actually square to the camera.

2 of the 3 shots (66%) posted were in the linebacker pose so it isn't that ironic! :rolleyes:


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May 06, 2010 08:25 |  #14

I think your client will be pleased with the images. I agree with comments regarding lighting and the direct camera angle. Image #2 is my favorite. I think this is a terrific shot inspite of the hay bails. I suspect she is a country gal. If so, she will love this image the best.


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May 06, 2010 09:18 |  #15

grewbek wrote in post #10130820 (external link)
2 of the 3 shots (66%) posted were in the linebacker pose so it isn't that ironic! :rolleyes:

I posted those as those were the one the mom wanted and they were edited first.




  
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