UWA on Cropper

Never having owned a EF-s or crop lens, I wanted to hear opinions on what to get. I heard good things of the toki 2.8 and i really want a fast lens. I am probably picking up a 12-24 sigma again but for FF. This question is limited to Ef-s equivalents. Really looking for sharpness an a bit of nice bokeh.

The new Sigma 8-16mm got a very nice review at Photozone:
http://www.photozone.d​e …eos/515-sigma816f4556apsc

Looks like a good competitor to Canon 10-22. The Tokina 11-16/2.8 looks very good from the pics I'v seen - but the Sigma looks very interesting with the even wider angle.

yeah but its the same as the 12-24mm but for crop...is there any other than the toki that goes to 2.8

Nice bokeh on a UWA? I dont think you will get much of that, nor much debate. 12-24 is awesome, I tagged it on my film once, it was awesome. Cant remember if there was vignetting though.

Tokina 12-24mm f4 and 11-16mm 2.8 are excellent options.

zincozinco wrote in post #10131079
yeah but its the same as the 12-24mm but for crop...is there any other than the toki that goes to 2.8

Nope, the Tokina is the only UWA zoom with a fixed 2.8 aperture for Canon crops at the moment.

nightcat wrote in post #10131088
Tokina 12-24mm f4 and 11-16mm 2.8 are excellent options.

which is sharper??

According to Photozone, the 11-16 is sharper at 11mm/2.8 that the 12-24 at 12mm/4:

http://www.photozone.d​e …ina_1116_28_can​on?start=1
http://www.photozone.d​e …st-report--review?start=1

hmm that only leaves this, im surprised noone has commented: Sigma 10-20mm F/3.5.... its between this an the Toki 2.8, how is the build of the Toki? generally the same as sigma or canon counter part?

I posted a few shots with my 40D and Tokina 12-24 f/4 in another thread. The sharpness is quite good.

https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=10127388#po​st10127388

the build quality of the tokina is very good. it has internal zoom and focusing, so I would conisder the build better than most of the other UWA. If you want 2.8, it is the obvious choice. I loved it on my 40D.

Canon 10-22
Can't beat it.

philwillmedia wrote in post #10131345
Canon 10-22
Can't beat it.

why not? (if its anything like the 16-35mm - its not hard)

The Tokina 12-24 is incredible... And for $350, you simply CAN NOT beat it!

Build is incredible. The IQ is awesome for such a wide angle and is just so much fun to use.

Personally, I would not even consider the Canon or Sigma after using the Tokina... But that is me!

zincozinco wrote in post #10131356
why not? (if its anything like the 16-35mm - its not hard)

Can't beat it's low cost/performance LOL. Kidding, but it was never on my list of lens to get for UWA on crop because it's a lot of money and there are lens that gives just as good results for the same price but offering f2.8 or lower price and similar f stops.