California Sunbounce

bobbyz wrote in post #10157562
I though CSB was the only one with frames like CSB sun-swatter?

I missread your post Bobby, i thought you said Chimera made sunswatters and no other manufacturer had equivalents. While CBS has a unique design, just about any frame with fabric can be used as a sun swatter. (of course they might not be as slick and light as the CBS)

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Thanks Paul. Like the setup shot.

After owning the Sunbounce, using the Skylite and researching other panels, I'm going to end up getting 2 of the Skylite frames. One large vertical silver/white for the studio and one larger square frame with 1 stop diffusion material for shooting on location, which is the one I believe Paul is showing in his first setup shot with the scrim overhead.

Since we talking panels, how do you guys avoid shadows on the ground when doing full length?

Hi Bobby i can only talk for my self, and i dont. Sure somtimes i tilt the panels at an angle and barely get a full length couple shot covered. You either need a tent setup like the CBS (which is easily created by skylite panels, or get a much larger scrim panel.

Kindest Regards
Paul L.

bobbyz wrote in post #10162486
Since we talking panels, how do you guys avoid shadows on the ground when doing full length?

If there is a light source and object in between the light source and the ground there will be a shadow.

I see full length outdoor work all the time with shadows being cast by the subject(s). It's unavoidable and I actually find it pleasing. You can minimize the shadow by reducing and diffusing the light but in most cases you either accept the shadow or shoot less than full length and don't include the ground in the shot.

Thanks guys.

I've used the Sunbounce, micro, mini, and the large one. The mini is the perfect size for an assistant to hand-hold. You don't get the twisting problems of the micro either.

Looking at the lastolite panels, they look much more difficult to hand-hold as a reflector. And I'm not exactly sure how we got off topic, but the OP wants a reflector (so it seems) and not a scrim or diffuser.

Vermin87 wrote in post #10262551
I've used the Sunbounce, micro, mini, and the large one. The mini is the perfect size for an assistant to hand-hold. You don't get the twisting problems of the micro either.

Looking at the lastolite panels, they look much more difficult to hand-hold as a reflector. And I'm not exactly sure how we got off topic, but the OP wants a reflector (so it seems) and not a scrim or diffuser.

Yes but most of these systems use a frame and offer options, so I think it was a natural progression to discuss the systems on the whole even though the OP is looking at reflectors.

Vermin87 wrote in post #10262551
I've used the Sunbounce, micro, mini, and the large one. The mini is the perfect size for an assistant to hand-hold. You don't get the twisting problems of the micro either.

Looking at the lastolite panels, they look much more difficult to hand-hold as a reflector. And I'm not exactly sure how we got off topic, but the OP wants a reflector (so it seems) and not a scrim or diffuser.

The micro/mini do twist i own it, and used it several times on location outdoors. In fact my assistent complained about it when we had the Quadra mounted on it.

The smallest skylite is 1x1 meter, and no its not meant to be handhold still you can do that with the optional handle.


Only person getting off topic is you.

MR do little wrote in post #10262976
Only person getting off topic is you.

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To the OP, looking at the Lastolite panels that others are mentioning, they don't look as robust as the sunbounce. I guess it depends what situation you are shooting in, but on the Central coast of California here, we typically have windy weather. Because of the way the frame is designed on the mini Sunbounce, it is able to keep its shape with little distortion due to the wind blowing it. At the last wedding I used the large sunbounce at, I was more concerned about me falling over than the sunbounce breaking because of 20+ mph winds. I've never held or used a Lastolite panel so I can't compare, but all the pictures on their website show them in dead-calm conditions.

Can anyone comment on the lastolite (or other brands) and their ability to withstand high-wind conditions without distortion?

In my opinion the Skylite is actually more robust than the Sunbounce.

TMR Design wrote in post #10264409
In my opinion the Skylite is actually more robust than the Sunbounce.

Haha, maybe I should have looked into those before purchasing my Sunbounce. I looked on the Skylite product page and it seems they only make square reflectors and scrims. Are there rectangular ones? Maybe I missed it.

Vermin87 wrote in post #10264510
Are there rectangular ones? Maybe I missed it.

You sure did. You saw the 42" x 42" and 78" x 78" but missed the 42" x 78".

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Vermin87 wrote in post #10264311
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To the OP, looking at the Lastolite panels that others are mentioning, they don't look as robust as the sunbounce. I guess it depends what situation you are shooting in, but on the Central coast of California here, we typically have windy weather. Because of the way the frame is designed on the mini Sunbounce, it is able to keep its shape with little distortion due to the wind blowing it. At the last wedding I used the large sunbounce at, I was more concerned about me falling over than the sunbounce breaking because of 20+ mph winds. I've never held or used a Lastolite panel so I can't compare, but all the pictures on their website show them in dead-calm conditions.

Can anyone comment on the lastolite (or other brands) and their ability to withstand high-wind conditions without distortion?

You seem to not understand how the skylite is buildt, if you did you would realize that unlike the CSB the skylite is rigid frame what wont flex due to windy conditions.

They are actually better buildt then CSB, they are however not as easy to handhold.