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May 11, 2010 11:06 |  #16

That is always a tricky area that of copying anothers work; and I suspects its just as much a problem for other artists as well. I mean one could say that one image of a bluetit, taken at 500mm with a perfectly blurred background could be copying anothers rendition of the same bird in a similar framing and composition.
Where does the line between emulation of a skill/method (in camera or in editing or both) and copying divide the two? Essentailly all of photography is emulation/copying/deri​vative partly by the limits of the tools and physics itself - manipulation and composition of those elements allows for diversity and ones own style to emerge and editing also greatly enhances this process. So in a sense all your work is already copied from a or a number of sources.

Does this line become more blurred when money comes into play - I would say yes (purist artists would try to disagree, but money is a factor). With that in mind how much can we copy/emulate of anothers work before we are "cheating" them? Should selective colouring not be allowed based on the fact that its a direct copy/reuse of a process by another photograher (someone probably started it at some point)?


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May 11, 2010 11:11 as a reply to  @ Overread's post |  #17

It's a bit like.

I'm having a get-together and dinner with friends, would you like to come?

Sure, why not.

OK,,see tonight at seven but bring your camera.


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May 11, 2010 11:18 |  #18

Overread wrote in post #10161046 (external link)
That is always a tricky area that of copying anothers work; and I suspects its just as much a problem for other artists as well. I mean one could say that one image of a bluetit, taken at 500mm with a perfectly blurred background could be copying anothers rendition of the same bird in a similar framing and composition.
Where does the line between emulation of a skill/method (in camera or in editing or both) and copying divide the two? Essentailly all of photography is emulation/copying/deri​vative partly by the limits of the tools and physics itself - manipulation and composition of those elements allows for diversity and ones own style to emerge and editing also greatly enhances this process. So in a sense all your work is already copied from a or a number of sources.

Does this line become more blurred when money comes into play - I would say yes (purist artists would try to disagree, but money is a factor). With that in mind how much can we copy/emulate of anothers work before we are "cheating" them? Should selective colouring not be allowed based on the fact that its a direct copy/reuse of a process by another photograher (someone probably started it at some point)?


Ps I totally know what you mean I'm just being the devil in this ;)

Is there such a thing as a truly original wedding photo anymore? I dont mean to say there isnt terrific and highly imaginative work being done every day. But someone probably has already done some version of any shot you can imagine.




  
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May 11, 2010 11:22 as a reply to  @ yogestee's post |  #19

I agree with both of you! :D

Sometimes My Girlfriends friends invite us round for a Bring your own BBQ - I dislike her most of her friends!

I tell her, 'So not only am i dinning with your friends i dont like, i have to bring my own food too'

..I put a stop to that when i had to bring the actual BBQ, the coal and the food, not only did i cook a mean BBQ, i ate it infront of them without sharing!

They called me a A**hole for it, but i kindly reminded them that they invited me to a 'Bring you own' event...

You brought bugger all, you get bugger all! :D

I think i handled the situation well, dont you agree?

lucky enough, i dont get invited anymore...SCORE! :D


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May 11, 2010 13:38 |  #20

LMAO...
Just think free food! Only 20 hours worth of time for it.
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May 11, 2010 19:23 |  #21

yogestee wrote in post #10161072 (external link)
It's a bit like.

I'm having a get-together and dinner with friends, would you like to come?

Sure, why not.

OK,,see tonight at seven but bring your camera.

If a so-called friend tried that, my instant reply would be: "Sorry, my camera's not hungry tonight!"

If the friend just came out and asked me directly, I would probably do it. But trying to trick or trap me means an automatic, irrevocable rejection.




  
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May 11, 2010 19:39 |  #22

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If a so-called friend tried that, my instant reply would be: "Sorry, my camera's not hungry tonight!"

hehe I'd bring my camera, macro lens and flash and then probably end up playing with my food :lol: - only to release the shocking comment when they ask for a portrait shot

Them; hey take my picture
Me; sure hold still
them; er I mean of my face not just my eye
Me; oh er... it can't do that
Them; er but you have a DSLR surely it can take a portrait, my point and shoot can do that
Me; yah mine can to, but not with this lens!
Them; What's the point of that!?
Me; *shows them closeups of food and bugs (bugs have to appear - at least one fly or moth is all a I ask)*


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May 11, 2010 23:01 |  #23

You guys cook with coal, across the pond? That sir is hardcore.

Cosha wrote in post #10161152 (external link)
I agree with both of you! :D

Sometimes My Girlfriends friends invite us round for a Bring your own BBQ - I dislike her most of her friends!

I tell her, 'So not only am i dinning with your friends i dont like, i have to bring my own food too'

..I put a stop to that when i had to bring the actual BBQ, the coal and the food, not only did i cook a mean BBQ, i ate it infront of them without sharing!

They called me a A**hole for it, but i kindly reminded them that they invited me to a 'Bring you own' event...

You brought bugger all, you get bugger all! :D

I think i handled the situation well, dont you agree?

lucky enough, i dont get invited anymore...SCORE! :D


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May 12, 2010 01:22 |  #24

epatt250 wrote in post #10165197 (external link)
You guys cook with coal, across the pond? That sir is hardcore.

Yes sir we do, normaly under an umbrella too! :D


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May 12, 2010 03:56 |  #25

epatt250 wrote in post #10165197 (external link)
You guys cook with coal, across the pond? That sir is hardcore.

Think that's tough...
DownUnder, we still rub two sticks together or use flint when we want to light a fire.
Not only that, we have to spear our own kill before we can cook it.


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May 12, 2010 06:57 |  #26

Cosha wrote in post #10160758 (external link)
like i say, maybe its just me having a better understanding, or alot of people turnt dumb over night?

I think a lot of people do when it comes to weddings - common sense flies out of the window so fast its untrue. In fact if engineers ever managed to replicate that speed, we will all be flying round the world in 1 hr! When else would someone buy a dress that will only ever be used once but still costs $$$$?

Cosha wrote in post #10161152 (external link)
I agree with both of you! :D

Sometimes My Girlfriends friends invite us round for a Bring your own BBQ - I dislike her most of her friends!
I tell her, 'So not only am i dinning with your friends i dont like, i have to bring my own food too'
..I put a stop to that when i had to bring the actual BBQ, the coal and the food, not only did i cook a mean BBQ, i ate it infront of them without sharing!
They called me a A**hole for it, but i kindly reminded them that they invited me to a 'Bring you own' event...
You brought bugger all, you get bugger all! :D
I think i handled the situation well, dont you agree?
lucky enough, i dont get invited anymore...SCORE! :D

I think you handled it perfectly - it was a bring your own BBQ after all. :lol:Are you still seeing the GF?

20droger wrote in post #10164080 (external link)
If a so-called friend tried that, my instant reply would be: "Sorry, my camera's not hungry tonight!"

If the friend just came out and asked me directly, I would probably do it. But trying to trick or trap me means an automatic, irrevocable rejection.

bw!

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Think that's tough...
DownUnder, we still rub two sticks together or use flint when we want to light a fire.
Not only that, we have to spear our own kill before we can cook it.

Now that is old school. I take my hat of to you sir!:D


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May 12, 2010 10:26 as a reply to  @ neilwood32's post |  #27

I have been closely involved with weddings most of my adult life. I have officiated at weddings that cost over $50,000.

My response is always "Why?" Going into massive debt for a wedding is, in my opinion, just plain stupid. Would that money not be better spent on something practical? Like, perhaps, a house?

And I can't tell you the number of times a couple has spent thousands on the caterer, but tried to cheat me out of my ministerial fee. Only a very few succeeded, and only early on. Even I can learn. For the last 20 years or so it's been cash on the barrelhead.

To exemplify how materialistic weddings have become, I have more than once been contacted at the last minute because people have planned everything down to the last detail: the venue; the caterer; the florist; the band; the rings; the gowns; the tuxes; the limos; the restaurants; the parties; etc. Then suddenly realized on the wedding day itself that they forgot the minister!




  
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May 12, 2010 10:29 |  #28

philwillmedia wrote in post #10165946 (external link)
Think that's tough...
DownUnder, we still rub two sticks together or use flint when we want to light a fire.
Not only that, we have to spear our own kill before we can cook it.

Sounds like typical Aussie technology.




  
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May 12, 2010 17:44 |  #29

is the deal for the free shirt still available or pending?


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May 12, 2010 21:15 |  #30

20droger wrote in post #10167278 (external link)
Sounds like typical Aussie technology.

Nah...just humour


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