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May 17, 2010 14:52 as a reply to  @ post 10197193 |  #16

xspro suppose to be more expensive over the the fpros but i got a good offer on that..both are mrc the only difference is slimmer with fewer front thread compared to the fpro..




  
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May 17, 2010 15:44 |  #17

Noobic wrote in post #10197206 (external link)
xspro suppose to be more expensive over the the fpros but i got a good offer on that..both are mrc the only difference is slimmer with fewer front thread compared to the fpro..

you don't need a slim filter for the II.

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May 18, 2010 07:37 |  #18

Using a UV filter is just stupid IMO... and I will admit I used to be stupid.

There was a time where all of my lenses sported UV filters, either Hoya Super HMC or B&W (the good brass ones), because I thought that they offered protection and might actually cut down on glare... The reality is that ANY UV filter will add the possiblity of getting flair/ghosting and ANY filter could degrade the image quality in a way that is not possible to fix in photoshop.

You Want Protection, Use the Lens Hood:
Lots of people think that the lens can easily be scratched, but the reality is the front lens element is actually quite hard and is pretty darn tough to scratch. Additionally your lens takes a fall the reality is that it's going to land front first (since that's where the bulk of the weight is) and that if you really want to soften the impact you will simply put your lens hood on...

This last Saturday while changing from my 16-35mm to my 85mm f/1.2 I dropped my 16-35mm which bounced onto a wooden pew in the church 3 feet below where I was standing and then it bounced off and onto a hard stone floor... it was obvious watching it tumble that a lot of the energy was headed into the lens hood (you could hear it going 'boing, boing'). if I would have not had the lens hood on I'm not sure it would have survived the spill.

Here is what a B+W UV Filter Can Do for Your Image Quality on the 16-35mm lens:
Lastly while this is somewhat of an extreme example (with a hard light source in the field of view). I took two photos in a theater and I'm glad I chimped as I had a pronounced flair in the frame, I took my UV filter off and the flair was gone.

With UV Filter:

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Without UV Filter:
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Original Image Viewable Larger on Flickr:
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The weekend I took these shots in the theather was the weekend I thought long and hard about me using UV filters and all the cash I had dropped on the spendy filters and exactly why I thought I was using them... the next day I took all the filters off and sold them and haven't looked back and that was almost three years ago.

Save your money people... there is a value in some CP and ND filters but keep the UV filters off. Ask a bunch of full time professionals and you'll realize that probably about 75% of them are not using UV filters and it's not because they can't afford to pay for them.

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May 18, 2010 07:54 |  #19

I personally don't use any UV filters anymore. I'm always using a CPL,ND, or GND in front of it.




  
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May 18, 2010 09:49 |  #20

fensterbme wrote in post #10201661 (external link)
Using a UV filter is just stupid IMO... and I will admit I used to be stupid.

There was a time where all of my lenses sported UV filters, either Hoya Super HMC or B&W (the good brass ones), because I thought that they offered protection and might actually cut down on glare... The reality is that ANY UV filter will add the possiblity of getting flair/ghosting and ANY filter could degrade the image quality in a way that is not possible to fix in photoshop.

You Want Protection, Use the Lens Hood:
Lots of people think that the lens can easily be scratched, but the reality is the front lens element is actually quite hard and is pretty darn tough to scratch. Additionally your lens takes a fall the reality is that it's going to land front first (since that's where the bulk of the weight is) and that if you really want to soften the impact you will simply put your lens hood on...

This last Saturday while changing from my 16-35mm to my 85mm f/1.2 I dropped my 16-35mm which bounced onto a wooden pew in the church 3 feet below where I was standing and then it bounced off and onto a hard stone floor... it was obvious watching it tumble that a lot of the energy was headed into the lens hood (you could hear it going 'boing, boing'). if I would have not had the lens hood on I'm not sure it would have survived the spill.

Here is what a B+W UV Filter Can Do for Your Image Quality on the 16-35mm lens:
Lastly while this is somewhat of an extreme example (with a hard light source in the field of view). I took two photos in a theater and I'm glad I chimped as I had a pronounced flair in the frame, I took my UV filter off and the flair was gone.

With UV Filter:
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

Original Image Viewable Larger on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/fensterbme/2601​802168/ (external link)

Without UV Filter:
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

Original Image Viewable Larger on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/fensterbme/2601​037671/ (external link)

The weekend I took these shots in the theather was the weekend I thought long and hard about me using UV filters and all the cash I had dropped on the spendy filters and exactly why I thought I was using them... the next day I took all the filters off and sold them and haven't looked back and that was almost three years ago.

Save your money people... there is a value in some CP and ND filters but keep the UV filters off. Ask a bunch of full time professionals and you'll realize that probably about 75% of them are not using UV filters and it's not because they can't afford to pay for them.

the 16-35L II hood affords very little protection. UV filters are often required to complete weatherproofing and i do shoot in the rain. i take the filter off when it can cause flaring.

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May 18, 2010 13:09 |  #21

If you must, here is the Hoya HD for less than $72. Don't forget bing cash back.

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May 18, 2010 13:21 |  #22

SkipD wrote in post #10196510 (external link)
NONE...

I don't even own any UV filters (or any other clear filters). The only filters I use are for special effect such as a polarizing filter.

All I use for "protection" for my lenses is the recommended rigid lens hoods.

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May 18, 2010 14:03 |  #23

ed rader wrote in post #10202298 (external link)
the 16-35L II hood affords very little protection. UV filters are often required to complete weatherproofing and i do shoot in the rain. i take the filter off when it can cause flaring.

ed rader

Ed, hit the nail on the head. The II's hood, does not offer any realistic protection. And as Ed pointed out, to complete the weather-proofing aspect, the usage of a UV Filter is required.

I also shoot in inclement weather, and I also shoot Offshore Boat Racing, to which the weather-sealing is invaluable.

Glare in itself is a subjective subject, due to the fact that many of us, shoot across a wide range of photography. Some of us experience it, some of us do not.

Either way, this is not the thread to have an argument over whether or not one should or should not use a UV Filter. The OP was asking for recommendations on which UV filter to buy.


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