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Borna ­ C
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May 19, 2010 16:37 |  #16

that's a common misconception , they actually have the rights to modify, publish etc. as long as the photos are on your account. otherwise, they couldn't even make a thumbnail out of it.

but if and when you delete them from your account, they have no rights at all. also, they could have rights to sell photos as microstock for all I care, first time they used that right, the best picture on all of facebook would be a puppy playing with a toddler at sunset shot by a mom from virginia. so I doubt they would ever exercise those rights


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May 19, 2010 19:20 as a reply to  @ Borna C's post |  #17
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the benefit of the marketing far outweighs the pennies of profit they could make trying to sell off any image
and if it isn't for you yet ...
you've got work to do cause damn. get on that.

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May 23, 2010 09:12 |  #18

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Yeah, but I have a website that also has no controls...

However, Facebook offers to print your photos through Target free of charge. Click and get prints.

I don't put an image on Facebook until after I've sold it.


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May 23, 2010 10:47 |  #19
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I have only uploaded the photos I really don't give nowt about, since myspace won't allow more than 5mb, that kind of suits my purpose really




  
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May 23, 2010 18:34 as a reply to  @ RichSoansPhotos's post |  #20

Facebook for Marketing

Facebook for Marketing? Yes.
http://www.pcworld.com …not_abandon_fac​ebook.html (external link)

Facebook, or any Web site as a Portfolio? No!
a) Check out the Photos tabs of Photography members, and of the Canon Digital Photography group:
http://www.facebook.co​m/group.php?gid=556624​3011 (external link)
http://www.facebook.co​m/group.php?gid=220451​6892 (external link)
b) Facebook's published Terms, section 2. Sharing Your Content and Information does not stipulate transfer of your copyright to Facebook. Instead, it details your grant of license for your intellectual property (IP) to Facebook.
http://www.facebook.co​m/terms.php (external link)
c) While convenient, and a decent way for someone to preview the concepts and composition of your work: No Web site or any other electronic medium (with one close exception) can convey the your portfolio at its best. You normally have no control over the color correctness or display quality (blurriness, burnt pixels, gaussian distortions, moire, intensity, geometry). The exception, of course, would be when you confirmed the calibration of the viewing device. Even so, these top-end LCD monitors (all available via Amazon) have "merely" 2560 x 1600 pixels:
EIZO 30" ColorEdge CG301W-BK
LaCie 30" 730
NEC 30" LCD3090WQXi-BK
NEC 30" MD304MC MultiSync X-LightTM Pro
Dell 30" 3007WFP-HC

Much more pixel capacity/viewing resolution is required in order to fully view the entire image taken with any dSLR.


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May 23, 2010 18:56 |  #21

Personally I use facebook as my current portfolio, image quality is BAD, but guess what, most of the people say "hey, cool pictures, i'll hire you for a photoshoot" ... My fan page got 15K fans after a pageant im doing. The winner wins a free photoshoot.. had 1,900 fans before starting the pageant and now my whole summer is booked :)! ..

Facebook is somewhat easy to show up your photos, people knows how to browse em and hey, most of the people wont be clicking links that they dont know.

From time to time I post my flickr on my page.

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May 26, 2010 13:06 as a reply to  @ Shamir's post |  #22

(This is a follow-up to my previous response.)

Facebook, or any Web site as a Portfolio? No!
d) By posting an image on Facebook, you grant royalty-free and transferable licenses to Facebook. It's all written out in their Terms:
http://www.facebook.co​m/terms.php (external link)
e) Target prints photographs which are posted on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.co​m …mments=1#s10738​6219300041 (external link)


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May 26, 2010 13:44 |  #23

I use Facebook for networking and only post links to my site on there. Occasionally I put up a select few in an album but people can just as easily click on the link I provide.


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May 26, 2010 16:52 |  #24

TaggM wrote in post #10250090 (external link)
(This is a follow-up to my previous response.)

Facebook, or any Web site as a Portfolio? No!
d) By posting an image on Facebook, you grant royalty-free and transferable licenses to Facebook. It's all written out in their Terms:
http://www.facebook.co​m/terms.php (external link)
e) Target prints photographs which are posted on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.co​m …mments=1#s10738​6219300041 (external link)

but it also says "This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it."

so you still have control. also, I'll repeat that it'll be a cold day in hell when some is sick of his job at facebook so much that he would use that license to it's full extent


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May 26, 2010 21:23 |  #25

I use facebook as a portfolio because people can see my work there then contact me and book me using the facebook messaging system. They don't even need to visit my website until they order stuff. It's perfect for everyone concerned. ;)


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May 31, 2010 18:46 |  #26

I think Facebook is a valuable tool depending upon your target client. I don't see the mega high $$$ wedding photogs using it successfully but modern photogs in many fields I can and do see amazing success with it.
I'm on the fence about starting an FB for my business but I certainly don't think less of photogs who have one.




  
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May 31, 2010 19:36 |  #27

HTPhotography wrote in post #10278373 (external link)
I think Facebook is a valuable tool depending upon your target client. I don't see the mega high $$$ wedding photogs using it successfully but modern photogs in many fields I can and do see amazing success with it.
I'm on the fence about starting an FB for my business but I certainly don't think less of photogs who have one.

I'm still questioning whether I can make it worthwhile for higher-end portraiture. While many people in my target group have Facebook pages--primarily to make contact with other people in their age groups (including me), these people don't "shop" with Facebook, nor do they do much general or common communication through Facebook.

Moreover, a great many of my clients are very leery about having their images posted on the Internet at all. They don't mind me showing their images in my hardcopy portfolio or on my laptop, and they love being in my local business displays...but they don't want to be on the Internet.


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May 31, 2010 20:29 |  #28

Facebook is a networking tool. If you want the word to spread about what you do and show off a few samples is a great way to do it. As far as copyrights goes and all of that other stuff, sure anyone and their mother can claim its their pic, blah,blah,blah. Besides facebook, just have your own site to compliment FB and you're good. It also gives you traffic from people to go from FB to your www.


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May 31, 2010 21:13 |  #29

RDKirk, what I was getting at is that I know a few in the $$$$$ crowd who seriously snub anything but their perceived notion of class. Those clients would likely turn tail and run if they caught wind of a potential photog with a FB.
On the other hand I've been watching a local up and comer use it to sell herself amazingly well, she's went from word of mouth to being booked until this fall. Her clients are the normal middle class.




  
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May 31, 2010 23:54 |  #30

HTPhotography wrote in post #10279063 (external link)
RDKirk, what I was getting at is that I know a few in the $$$$$ crowd who seriously snub anything but their perceived notion of class. Those clients would likely turn tail and run if they caught wind of a potential photog with a FB.
On the other hand I've been watching a local up and comer use it to sell herself amazingly well, she's went from word of mouth to being booked until this fall. Her clients are the normal middle class.

I know people with money too and some of them have that money because they decided that social networking is a great place to market their product/service.

I don't worry about snobs.


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