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May 23, 2010 21:49 |  #1

I bought a standard 53" Dynex Tripod back when I first got my t1i.

http://www.bestbuy.com …6&loc=01&id=119​6470448706 (external link)

I've used it to shoot with the kit lens and 50mm f/1.8 with great results. I recently purchased the 70-200mm f/4L and want to know if simply buying a tripod mount ring and using this tripod would work...or if i should get a more sturdy tripod to support the weight? if you think i should upgrade, can you give me recommendations on what to get without breaking the bank? thanks!




  
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May 23, 2010 22:10 |  #2

Actually you would benefit from both a tripod ring and a better tripod. You can buy the chinese knockoff rings cheap on ebay but do spend an appropriate amount to get a decent tripod. I don't know how to say this nicely, but your current tripod is in the "junk" category. It's primarily designed for home videos and consume video cameras.

While Canon doesn't supply a ring standard on the lens, it's just a much better idea to balance the camera and lens mass on the tripod rather than cantilever it out from the tripod mount on the camera body. I always shoot mine (f/4 IS) from either a monopod or a tripod using a ring.

Here's some tripod reading for you:

http://bythom.com/supp​ort.htm (external link)
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/t​ripods_&_heads.shtml (external link)
http://markins.com/cha​rlie/report4e6.pdf (external link)

Both that 70-200 f/4 and the 50mm will perform very well when you give them a good stable base.

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May 23, 2010 22:21 |  #3

thanks john for the reply. i couldnt make out what you were saying from your middle paragraph...i should upgrade with a better tripod and also get the tripod mount ring for the lens...

yea the tripod i have is as basic as it gets and its given me exactly what i paid for it, but im just not an expert in tripods, so i wouldnt know what tripod really is the best bang for the buck...

thanks again for your help!




  
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May 23, 2010 22:33 |  #4

Tripods are tough. There are no industry standards or common testing methods. There are also a lot of knockoffs that look great but have less than stellar performance. Gitzo's top of the Line, Feisol is a good cheaper alternative. Manfrotto is a solid manufacturer of tripods although typically not light weight. In general, expect to pay what you'd pay for a decent lens for the tripod/head combination especially if light weight is a concern.

What I was saying up above is that if you mount your camera and lens by the base of the camera - you are hanging all that weight out on the end of a big lever. That's going to be more prone to problems with vibration (i.e. softness) than is the whole thing mounted by a tripod ring.

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May 23, 2010 22:40 |  #5

thanks john. yea i need a tripod ring for sure...im looking at the optika ring off amazon for the 70-200 f4. dont want an ebay knockoff to malfunction and my 70-200 and t1i end up on the ground...

for an amateur shooter whos just getting to know the ropes of photography, i dont think i can justify paying 200-300 for a tripod, but i do know that i need one that can deliver images with great quality




  
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May 24, 2010 08:30 |  #6

ayee007 wrote in post #10234097 (external link)
thanks john. yea i need a tripod ring for sure...im looking at the optika ring off amazon for the 70-200 f4. dont want an ebay knockoff to malfunction and my 70-200 and t1i end up on the ground...

for an amateur shooter whos just getting to know the ropes of photography, i dont think i can justify paying 200-300 for a tripod, but i do know that i need one that can deliver images with great quality

In that case, get an inexpensive Manfrotto aluminum tripod and the 496RC2 head. Check them at B&H online.


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May 24, 2010 09:45 |  #7

THe Manfrotto Aluminum is a good suggestion. The rule of thumb is that tripods can be cheap, stable and lightweight - pick any two but you can't get all three. Stable, heavy and inexpensive means Aluminum and will perform great. I think it's the Manfrotto 3021 (or there might be a new model number for that).

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May 25, 2010 11:51 |  #8

ayee007 wrote in post #10234097 (external link)
thanks john. yea i need a tripod ring for sure...im looking at the optika ring off amazon for the 70-200 f4. dont want an ebay knockoff to malfunction and my 70-200 and t1i end up on the ground...

for an amateur shooter whos just getting to know the ropes of photography, i dont think i can justify paying 200-300 for a tripod, but i do know that i need one that can deliver images with great quality


stay away from those knockoffs

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May 25, 2010 16:49 |  #9

yea i will...i cant afford a canon ring, but is the optika a good replacement? i figure i go with a brand that actually makes canon product replacements...




  
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May 25, 2010 17:01 |  #10
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I went with this one...

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ro_780DX_Tripod​_with.html (external link)


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May 25, 2010 17:10 |  #11

I mean, tripod rings aren't exactly rocket science. It's really not worth a lot of thought.

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May 25, 2010 17:16 |  #12

JohnJ80 wrote in post #10245093 (external link)
I mean, tripod rings aren't exactly rocket science. It's really not worth a lot of thought.

J.

very true, but get a bad one and 1K worth of gear is smashed!




  
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May 25, 2010 17:23 |  #13
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ayee007 wrote in post #10233853 (external link)
I bought a standard 53" Dynex Tripod back when I first got my t1i.

http://www.bestbuy.com …6&loc=01&id=119​6470448706 (external link)

I've used it to shoot with the kit lens and 50mm f/1.8 with great results. I recently purchased the 70-200mm f/4L and want to know if simply buying a tripod mount ring and using this tripod would work...or if i should get a more sturdy tripod to support the weight? if you think i should upgrade, can you give me recommendations on what to get without breaking the bank? thanks!

this thread helped me a lot,good info from smart people here.
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=872250
I ended up spending $275,but in the long run and investment in lenses,it's good with me. :)




  
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May 25, 2010 17:36 |  #14

ayee007 wrote in post #10245126 (external link)
very true, but get a bad one and 1K worth of gear is smashed!

It's pretty obvious if it's a good one or a bad one. It's just a metal ring with a nut on it. Definitely can overthink this one.

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May 25, 2010 17:38 |  #15

tattooDan wrote in post #10245159 (external link)
this thread helped me a lot,good info from smart people here.
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=872250
I ended up spending $275,but in the long run and investment in lenses,it's good with me. :)

thanks for the ideas!




  
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