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Am I the only one who doesn't have trouble focus-recomposing?

 
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May 26, 2010 19:53 |  #1

I learned on a Nikon FE with a split focusing screen.

That's one focus point, focused manually.

I focus-recomposed pretty much daily.

Using lenses such as a 50 1.4, 300 4.5 for birds, etc. I never had a problem getting sharp shots.

For some reason I don't have any trouble getting precise focus after focus recomposing with any of my lenses. I seriously think that this whole "dont focus-recompose" thing is blown way out of proportion. I still don't have trouble getting sharp shots after focus recomposing, even wide open.

I know that there is a scientific basis to it. But it the effects of focus-recomposing should even be diminished the longer a lens gets because you have to move the lens LESS to get the desired framing (smaller angle of view)

If I want to focus recompose my 17-40 i have to swing the camera a lot of degrees. My 70-200 I hardly move the camera at all.

My shots are still sharp.


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May 26, 2010 20:22 |  #2

Basically: Minimum focusing distance + not staying parallel to the focus plane + lowest f/stop + slow shutter speed when focusing and recomposing = high possibility of OOF. Birds with the 300 f/4.5 - no problem. The farther you get from subject + the more parallel you stay to the focus plane + higher f/stop + faster shutter speed = less OOF photos. Not scientific, just realistic. Maybe you just have good technique.
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May 26, 2010 20:22 |  #3

mikekelley wrote in post #10252250 (external link)
I learned on a Nikon FE with a split focusing screen.

That's one focus point, focused manually.

I focus-recomposed pretty much daily.

Using lenses such as a 50 1.4, 300 4.5 for birds, etc. I never had a problem getting sharp shots.

For some reason I don't have any trouble getting precise focus after focus recomposing with any of my lenses. I seriously think that this whole "dont focus-recompose" thing is blown way out of proportion. I still don't have trouble getting sharp shots after focus recomposing, even wide open.


I know that there is a scientific basis to it. But it the effects of focus-recomposing should even be diminished the longer a lens gets because you have to move the lens LESS to get the desired framing (smaller angle of view)

If I want to focus recompose my 17-40 i have to swing the camera a lot of degrees. My 70-200 I hardly move the camera at all.

My shots are still sharp.


It depends on your method. Pretend if the camera was on a tripod, you focus on a subject and recompose by just panning the camera around, then that would cause your subject to be somewhat out of focus but still sharp enough that it is undistinguishable. However, if you compensate by it by moving the camera backwards a little bit to keep the same distance prior to recomposing, then the image will be as sharp as it was as if you didn't recompose.

All cameras, despite the brand name, will have this problem unless your camera already backfocuses in the first place which in turn would make the image when recomposing, sharper compared to not recomposing. Hence the settings on the camera that allows you to adjust for focusing compensations.

But yea, good for you that you are not having any troubles. No need to tell the world. Physics works the same way for everyone. Your expectations are different from everyone else, so what you see as sharp may not be sharp compared to other people.


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May 26, 2010 20:44 |  #4

mikekelley wrote in post #10252250 (external link)
Am I the only one who doesn't have trouble focus-recomposing?

I do it all the time - just like I did with my Nikon F cameras.

As long as the change in camera position does not make a significant difference distance from the camera to where you focused and the distance from the camera to where the camera is aimed to make the image, you're good to go. With a close-by subject, you may need to be careful to get things right.


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May 26, 2010 21:30 |  #5

mikekelley wrote in post #10252250 (external link)
For some reason I don't have any trouble getting precise focus after focus recomposing with any of my lenses.

Gold star for you. Top of the class! :D:p

You might even be the only one who doesn't have trouble freezing motion with a fast shutter speed. (OK, now I'm really being silly).

mikekelley wrote in post #10252250 (external link)
I seriously think that this whole "dont focus-recompose" thing is blown way out of proportion. I still don't have trouble getting sharp shots after focus recomposing, even wide open.

My point is; you understand DOF, and the difference between subject motion and camera motion, what an appropriate shutter speed might be, and how IS fits into the equation.

Most newbies haven't even heard of some of those terms...let alone understand them. I only suggest they don't focus-recompose until they understand what's physically going on and the limitations of the technique.

It's one less variable we have to worry about when trying to diagnose a 'why are my photos blurry' thread.


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May 26, 2010 23:18 |  #6

Over on the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 thread where people are trying to use centerpoint and focus/recompose, the short distance between camera and subject make the minute change in angle significant at f/1.4.


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May 27, 2010 06:22 |  #7

I'm only concerned with using different focus points with my prime lenses shooting wide open. Even then I often will focus and recompose.


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May 27, 2010 09:31 as a reply to  @ DStanic's post |  #8

Mike,, I never focus and recompose.. It just doesn't work for me because I shoot at wide apertures and mostly my subjects move,, I mainly shoot street candids..

I've been using AI Servo with great results especially with my 135L.. I pick a focus point right on the nearest eye of my subject and hold focus until the moment I trip the shutter..


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May 27, 2010 09:46 |  #9

I use the AF point closest to the subject. The only time I would focus and recompose is when I can't get AF lock on the weaker outer points. Then I would use the center AF point, then recompose as needed.




  
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