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White Uniforms - Please Help!!!

 
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May 27, 2010 17:53 |  #1

My son received his travel baseball uniforms earlier today. They are as follows:

Home = White Pants/White Shirt (with blue letters)
Away = White Pants/Blue Shirt (with white letters)

Can someone please tell me how I can achieve the proper exposure with white uniforms? How and where should I meter?

I shoot with the Mark III 1D, 70-200 2.8.

I would appreciate any suggestions, opinions, and advice!

Thanks so much,
Laura




  
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May 27, 2010 19:09 |  #2

Expose for the faces or the uniforms. Depends on a lot of factors as how close you can balance both.




  
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May 27, 2010 20:20 |  #3

Expose for skin tones and forget about the rest.


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May 27, 2010 21:54 |  #4

Dan-o wrote in post #10258546 (external link)
Expose for skin tones and forget about the rest.

+1

I am assuming you are planning to shoot manual.


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May 27, 2010 22:00 |  #5

Hi Pipernails. Tell him to put the uniform on and go from there, you can have a free run of the lighting conditions before any major shoot. Am.




  
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May 28, 2010 05:37 as a reply to  @ ameerat42's post |  #6

AWB on the MK3 is pretty good. It can be tricked in mixed lighting, but it seems to hold on well. You can also try one of the other settings for WB. Better yet, buy a gray card and make a custom WB when you're at the venue.

Here's an example of mixed lighting and the MK3's AWB. The house lights are white fluorescents, the yellow you see are these big overheard "toaster ovens" that are used for heat in the stands. When I was shooting with my old MK2, and these were on, the pics would have a blue cast. The MK3 does not seem to be as effected. If all else fails, you can always shoot RAW/JPG until you figure out what works for you.

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May 28, 2010 10:04 |  #7

Seems to me it's a tad easier to lighten up a darker face than it is to fill a washed out white jersey. But playing around with it will be your best route and come up with what works best for you. Good luck.


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May 28, 2010 11:05 |  #8

Lacks_focus wrote in post #10260301 (external link)
AWB on the MK3 is pretty good. It can be tricked in mixed lighting, but it seems to hold on well. You can also try one of the other settings for WB. Better yet, buy a gray card and make a custom WB when you're at the venue.

Here's an example of mixed lighting and the MK3's AWB. The house lights are white fluorescents, the yellow you see are these big overheard "toaster ovens" that are used for heat in the stands. When I was shooting with my old MK2, and these were on, the pics would have a blue cast. The MK3 does not seem to be as effected. If all else fails, you can always shoot RAW/JPG until you figure out what works for you.

http://lacks-focus.smugmug.com …/761640705_ozKN​u-XL-1.jpg (external link)

:lol: wow that is just awful
white background white ice white uniforms

i think that's a great job on that shot
what did the histogram look like?


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May 28, 2010 14:24 |  #9

Dan-o wrote in post #10258546 (external link)
Expose for skin tones and forget about the rest.

Danny got it right.


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May 28, 2010 14:57 |  #10

My sons unis are either burgandy or white, I know hwat you mean. First off shoot manual. On grass fields, I always expose on the grass about +1/3, which seems to get the faces properly exposed.


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May 29, 2010 13:50 as a reply to  @ packpe89's post |  #11

i think you will be OK with AWB...but on white uniforms AF could think for a millisecond longer...and not always be tack sharp...


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May 29, 2010 15:00 |  #12

Ask Ku-Klux-Klan, they must know that :D

I would rather slightly underexpose the photos or at least watch the histogram to avoid completely blown out areas, when the uniforms are white, you don´t have to be worried about noise.


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May 30, 2010 10:41 |  #13

Meter for the ambient light and set your camera to manual. Doesn't matter at that point whether the uniforms are black or white --- you will be exposing properly all the time.


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Jun 06, 2010 11:13 |  #14

It's usually best to get the faces correctly exposed at the risk of some highlights blowing out on uni's and such. One rule of thumb I've used when shooting manual is to expose for the grass then add 1 stop. In other words, if the grass meters at f/2.8 ISO 200 and 1/1600s, one stop brighter as in f/2.8 ISO 400 and 1/1600s.

You can also shoot AV (which I do often on partly cloudy days or when there are lotsa shadows) and add a little +EV.


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Jun 06, 2010 20:04 as a reply to  @ dmwierz's post |  #15

So if you are metering off of the grass, I assume you are doing 2 things,
1.) Using Spot Metering
2.) Using One-Shot not AI Servo

I'm not being a smart-a** I'm just tring to learn. what is the advantage to using Spot over evaluative?

if you are shooting action shots isn't AI Servo much faster?

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