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May 27, 2010 20:08 |  #1

If you use LR3, would you mind sharing what general capture sharpening settings you use? Obviously not everyone uses the same settings for everything, so maybe you can break it up into typical settings for portraits vs. landscapes, etc...

The reason I ask is that I've found that the sharpening in LR3 is a bit different than what I'm used to, and extra-special care is required for the very pixel-dense 7D/T2i sensor. I tried a quick search for this on the forum, but didn't find a thread on this topic exactly.

To start things off, here's what I use as my general sharpening setting (which I then change to suit the picture in question):

Amount: 80
Radius: 0.9
Detail: 0
Masking: 60

I find that increasing the 'detail' slider too much introduces a weird "paintery" effect when the 'amount' slider is high, especially in areas where there is noise - this is why I keep it small (maybe up to 5 at the most). If I need more sharpening, I'll instead increase the 'amount' up to 120 or 130, increase the radius to 1.3 or so, and decrease the masking to maybe 30. FYI, I can get similar results bringing the 'amount' slider much lower, but instead increasing the 'detail' slider - as long as 'amount' is low enough, I won't see the "paintery" effect.

Finally, I don't do any output sharpening when I export my JPEGs, since I try to sharpen enough during capture sharpening for my targeted application.


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May 27, 2010 21:36 |  #2

for 50D ISO 100:

Amount: 35-45
Radius: 1-1.3 typ.
Detail: 20-30 typ.
Masking: 0 - 60 typ.


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May 27, 2010 22:56 |  #3

My general settings are the same as those shown in the photos of this article: http://lightroom-news.com …oom-11-update/sharpening/ (external link)

Lightroom's Detail tab is designed primarily to do edge sharpening so if you're not doing final sharpening you're missing the point. It appears to me that your Amount settings are too high.

manttium wrote in post #10258486 (external link)
If you use LR3, would you mind sharing what general capture sharpening settings you use? Obviously not everyone uses the same settings for everything, so maybe you can break it up into typical settings for portraits vs. landscapes, etc...

The reason I ask is that I've found that the sharpening in LR3 is a bit different than what I'm used to, and extra-special care is required for the very pixel-dense 7D/T2i sensor. I tried a quick search for this on the forum, but didn't find a thread on this topic exactly.

To start things off, here's what I use as my general sharpening setting (which I then change to suit the picture in question):

Amount: 80
Radius: 0.9
Detail: 0
Masking: 60

I find that increasing the 'detail' slider too much introduces a weird "paintery" effect when the 'amount' slider is high, especially in areas where there is noise - this is why I keep it small (maybe up to 5 at the most). If I need more sharpening, I'll instead increase the 'amount' up to 120 or 130, increase the radius to 1.3 or so, and decrease the masking to maybe 30. FYI, I can get similar results bringing the 'amount' slider much lower, but instead increasing the 'detail' slider - as long as 'amount' is low enough, I won't see the "paintery" effect.

Finally, I don't do any output sharpening when I export my JPEGs, since I try to sharpen enough during capture sharpening for my targeted application.


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May 28, 2010 04:04 |  #4

Amount 75
Radius 0.5
Detail 15
Mask 40

Output sharpening - High


Edit: I should add here that one of the things that has always made me uneasy about LR is that the Output Sharpening has no UI other than Low, Standard, and High and no preview. After importing my first reaction when seeing the RGB image frequently is that it needs a bit more sharpening, but just as frequently after adding more I see that it is too much and return to the original export.


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May 28, 2010 04:06 |  #5

Is it the general concensus that LR3 capture sharpens more aggressively than LR2.X ?


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May 28, 2010 04:31 |  #6

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #10260144 (external link)
Is it the general concensus that LR3 capture sharpens more aggressively than LR2.X ?

The difference is not in the sharpening mechanism but rather in the pre-sharpened first stage image. Since the demosaicing is interpolating two thirds of the tonal values it can be biased toward contrastier, i.e. sharper, choices or less local contrast. Moreover, the demosaicing algorithm is aware of edges and can enforce them or not. The LR2 engine was tuned toward doing a fair amount of smoothing, but with LR3 they have gone for a more detailed, sharper and noisier image. This means that we have to find new sharpening/n.r. routines.


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May 28, 2010 05:49 |  #7

So that would be a yes?


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