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May 30, 2010 14:18 |  #16

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what would kind of gear would a MI6 / CIA photographer use to shoot bad guys conducting their operations ?

9mm is commonly used for shooting bad guys. There is also the AA12 auto machinegun 12GA shotgun.


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May 30, 2010 14:30 |  #17

Bummer. They don't use Minoxs any more?
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May 30, 2010 14:37 |  #18

We could tell you, but we'd have to kill you. ;)


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May 31, 2010 03:22 |  #19
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AdamLewis wrote in post #10271872 (external link)
:lol::lol::lol:

I think the days of people staking out in cars with cameras is long gone. Remote cameras, pinhole cameras, or satellite is where its at nowadays.

Satellites would only be useful if they knew where to search:lol:

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9mm is commonly used for shooting bad guys. There is also the AA12 auto machinegun 12GA shotgun.

Nah, the Walter PPK (sniff, james bond)




  
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May 31, 2010 04:28 |  #20

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ask you for websites you have membership with as well as e-mail acounts and passwords

If they really ask you for this, you really don't want to join such incapable group of people. Getting this info, and info you would get by possesing such information, is a whole lot easier, if person you are checking, doesn't know you are checking him. ;) So if I would give them my mail and password, I would take good care they wouldn't find anything in there, so checking this would be totally useless. And unless they are really totally incompetent, they probably know this, so they don't ask you for username and password ;)


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May 31, 2010 04:34 |  #21
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primoz wrote in post #10274878 (external link)
If they really ask you for this, you really don't want to join such incapable group of people. Getting this info, and info you would get by possesing such information, is a whole lot easier, if person you are checking, doesn't know you are checking him. ;) So if I would give them my mail and password, I would take good care they wouldn't find anything in there, so checking this would be totally useless. And unless they are really totally incompetent, they probably know this, so they don't ask you for username and password ;)


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May 31, 2010 04:36 as a reply to  @ RichSoansPhotos's post |  #22

Sure... IPv4 or v6? But seriously. What exactly did you mean with this?


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May 31, 2010 04:42 |  #23

primoz wrote in post #10274878 (external link)
If they really ask you for this, you really don't want to join such incapable group of people. Getting this info, and info you would get by possesing such information, is a whole lot easier, if person you are checking, doesn't know you are checking him. ;) So if I would give them my mail and password, I would take good care they wouldn't find anything in there, so checking this would be totally useless. And unless they are really totally incompetent, they probably know this, so they don't ask you for username and password ;)

As you say, finding this info isn't particularly difficult. So why ask the questions? Perhaps to see how honest you are? I would imagine that not mentioning your account on www.internetbabes.com (external link) would be a lot more harmful to your chances than if you do tell them.


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May 31, 2010 05:16 |  #24

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Most likely they use cameras you wouldn't immediately recognize as cameras. Covert surveillance isn't exactly "covert" with an SLR-sized body and a big, long white lens. It's even less covert if you're crawling around on a rooftop or peeking around corners trying to look inconspicuous with an SLR-sized body and a big, long white lens. CSI or the spy movies on TV have no resemblance to real life about 99.9% of the time.

Unless, a reverse psychology move! Use ppl with obnoxiously big cameras coz no one would dream they are actually spies! <Insert suitable dramatic music here>




  
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primoz wrote in post #10274893 (external link)
Sure... IPv4 or v6? But seriously. What exactly did you mean with this?


They can track you using your IP address, I am not asking you for your IP address:lol:




  
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Jun 01, 2010 00:02 |  #26

Minox, of course.




  
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Jun 01, 2010 07:24 |  #27

primoz wrote in post #10274878 (external link)
If they really ask you for this, you really don't want to join such incapable group of people. Getting this info, and info you would get by possesing such information, is a whole lot easier, if person you are checking, doesn't know you are checking him. ;) So if I would give them my mail and password, I would take good care they wouldn't find anything in there, so checking this would be totally useless. And unless they are really totally incompetent, they probably know this, so they don't ask you for username and password ;)

After I got my security clearance, I went back home for vacation and visited lots of family friends. At every visit, at some point everyone edged into the same question: "There were some government agents that came by a few months ago asking about you...."

Then they asked me back for another interview. It seems I had mis-typed the name of the town I was born. After asking a few general questions, they asked, "Why did you put down an incorrect birthplace?" Of course, they had already determined the actual place and had been there to check the birth records. But they had scheduled that interview just to ask that particular question in that particular way...to see how I answered it.

Yes, they do ask you, and then they check whether you were truthful. They do the same thing during all "interviews/interrogat​ions"--they ask all kinds of things like, "who lived next door to you"...and then they check. They even ask the kids across the street, "Did you know the guy who lived there? What kind of man was he?" Big lies, little lies, big truths, little truths all add up to a judgment of probable reliability.

That's also why Obama's birthplace is not really an issue, btw. If they checked me out, you can be darned sure the Bush administration checked him out.


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Jun 02, 2010 01:26 as a reply to  @ RDKirk's post |  #28

I know first hand how these things work ;) Not with CIA or Mi5, but it's all same with intelligence agencies in different countries (I'm not in USA neither in UK). But there's still no need (or even legal reason) for asking your username/password for e-mail, Facebook, POTN or any other on or off-line community or service.


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Jun 02, 2010 01:46 |  #29

primoz wrote in post #10274878 (external link)
If they really ask you for this, you really don't want to join such incapable group of people. Getting this info, and info you would get by possesing such information, is a whole lot easier, if person you are checking, doesn't know you are checking him. ;) So if I would give them my mail and password, I would take good care they wouldn't find anything in there, so checking this would be totally useless. And unless they are really totally incompetent, they probably know this, so they don't ask you for username and password ;)

they do ask for this info and I can only asume is so they can find out if you are holding back anything from them


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Jun 02, 2010 06:21 |  #30

primoz wrote in post #10286738 (external link)
I know first hand how these things work ;) Not with CIA or Mi5, but it's all same with intelligence agencies in different countries (I'm not in USA neither in UK). But there's still no need (or even legal reason) for asking your username/password for e-mail, Facebook, POTN or any other on or off-line community or service.

Well, you can gripe about it and all anyone can do is shrug at your griping. I don't know about your mysterious other country, but in the US, they ask you for everything they want to know, then they check it out anyway on their own, and compare your answers to what they discover.

The "need" is a matter of learning more about your character. When I took my first security polygraph, one of the questions they asked was, "Have you ever made a mistake at work that you didn't tell your boss about? Please answer 'No.'" Then they watched to see if a "no" answer registered as a lie. If it did, you had to tell them every mistake you ever made until you could answer 'no' without it registering as a lie.

Then they asked, "Have you ever exaggerated about yourself to impress someone else? Please answer 'No.'" ....and went through the entire thing again. That was the DIA polygraph, which is fairly straightforward. The CIA polygraph includes questions like, "Have you ever imagined having sex with your mother?"

It's a psyche game.


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