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Jun 03, 2010 06:48 |  #16

Jonta wrote in post #10270898 (external link)
Why?

I was being sarcastic. People think they NEED L lenses (and some do for the right reasons) but if you do not know why you need a 135L or 70-200 f/2.8L IS mkII then it is quite silly saying "I want to get a new lens, I want to an L lens." That is like going to a car dealership and saying "I want a high end sports car, I don't know what kind" when maybe all you need is a Ford Focus.


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Jun 03, 2010 07:19 as a reply to  @ DStanic's post |  #17

I let my pictures do the talking.....Sometimes they are made by L lenses, sometimes they are made by Sigma lenses. NO ONE looks at my pictures and asks "Oooooooh, was that made by an L lens?" :lol:




  
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Jun 03, 2010 10:13 |  #18

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #10292315 (external link)
I believe the 24-105L and 24-70L cover the same focal range on the FF as the ef-s 18-55 on a crop. Well if you really want to compare an EF-S lens to another how about the 17-55 IS USM lens? It's about the same price range as the Ls so why are people buying them?

A few points to be made: 1: You are overexaggerating what I said. I pointed out that it was quite extreme to go for the 50 1.2, instead of the 1.8 or 1.4. My main point has been that it is silly to get an L to get an L. This might not have been clear from my posts, but it seems that some people have gotten it.

hmm are you trying to say that those of us who own L lenses are bunch of amateurs who will remain newbies with very limited knowledge about photography for the rest of our lives?

I am trying to say that some of you are. Claiming this is true for everyone who owns one or more L-lenses would be woefully ignorant, and I try to avoid such generalizations and stigmatizations as much as possible.

Then of course I couldn't help but wonder how many photos you have taken with a EF 50mm f1.2L lens or with any other L lenses.

I am going to answer this question, even though it isn't really one, and at best a rhetorical one:

The number of pictures I've shot with an L-lens is negligible. Probably around 30-50, so yes, as you might have guessed; as good as none. Ask me next year, and the number will actually be substantial, seeing as I will be the owner of the Canon EF 200 mm f/2.8 II. A lens I chose because it fits my use, and not because it's an L.

Am I getting my point across? Feel free to inquire further.




  
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Jun 03, 2010 10:19 |  #19

Domgravine wrote in post #10267592 (external link)
Hey everyone,
i want to get a new lens. I want an L lens. Which one would be best for my 50d. I like to take Fashion type photos, editorial type stuff and headshots...i was thinking about the 135L but someone suggested the 85L but that 2,000 a little pricey! let me know your thoughts. thanks everyone!

Whats wrong with the 85mm 1.8? Will you be going that shallow? I have one and use that for fashion and other shoots and works fine for me.

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You dont NEED an L for every kind of shoot and work you do. ;)

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Jun 03, 2010 14:38 |  #20

Jonta wrote in post #10295180 (external link)
A few points to be made: 1: You are overexaggerating what I said. I pointed out that it was quite extreme to go for the 50 1.2, instead of the 1.8 or 1.4. My main point has been that it is silly to get an L to get an L. This might not have been clear from my posts, but it seems that some people have gotten it.I am trying to say that some of you are. Claiming this is true for everyone who owns one or more L-lenses would be woefully ignorant, and I try to avoid such generalizations and stigmatizations as much as possible.

Am I getting my point across? Feel free to inquire further.

If you read your previous posts again you may will find that I wasn't over-exaggerating. I suggested the 50L and 35L mainly because both are cheaper than the 85L and price is the main reason why you seem to dislike L lenses, right? Then again we don't know if the OP is a pro or a hobbyist but he seems to be willing to pay more for higher quality. I don't know about the other members in this forum but I started with a few cheap lenses and have seen and experienced their limitations which is why I don't mind paying more for higher quality lenses. Now if I am one of those who have never used a slr before and all of the sudden got a bunch of L lenses and a pro body then I would probably agree with what you said. If you still don't agree with me then I guess we just have to agree to disagree :D


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Jun 05, 2010 11:39 |  #21

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #10296768 (external link)
I suggested the 50L and 35L mainly because both are cheaper than the 85L and price is the main reason why you seem to dislike L lenses, right?

No. Not quite right, seeing as I do not dislike L-lenses.

Then again we don't know if the OP is a pro or a hobbyist but he seems to be willing to pay more for higher quality. I don't know about the other members in this forum but I started with a few cheap lenses and have seen and experienced their limitations which is why I don't mind paying more for higher quality lenses.

Yes, I do not doubt this, but I am of the opinion that you base this far too much on how you would handle this situation. If one can afford the 50 f/1.2, one can also afford to test the f/1.8 and f/1.4 first. You cannot know that OP will have the same experiences as you, and, say, want to swap the 1.8 for something else as quickly.




  
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