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May 31, 2010 21:10 |  #1

ok ... i'm close to getting half the money for the 200 f/2 IS (selling something non-photog related)

here's my lineup:

5DII and 7D
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i like doing portraits

i have my eyes set on the 200 f/2 IS.

but am wondering with the same amount of money, i could buy:
135L
580EXII
70-200 II
fisheye or sigma 12-24
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am i nuts for obsessing about the 200 with just my current lineup?

i've been into many hobbies, and most of the time, i've found buying the best would pretty much kill ANY regret or remorse and put a cap on that hobby (this is ideal).


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May 31, 2010 21:14 |  #2

buy once, cry once, then start enjoying your 200L f/2.0. I believe it is worth every penny of it's price.


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May 31, 2010 21:26 |  #3

just take a look at Dustian Diaz's work on flickr... sure hes a nikon guy, but it looks like thats one hell of a focal length/aperture combo!


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May 31, 2010 22:27 |  #4

mike cabilangan wrote in post #10279046 (external link)
i've been into many hobbies, and most of the time, i've found buying the best would pretty much kill ANY regret or remorse and put a cap on that hobby (this is ideal).

If you don't get the 200 2.0, within 1 week you'll be on the Marketplace selling half the gear you bought instead. Just get it. The pictures in the sticky with the lens are absolutely awesome.


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Jun 01, 2010 01:19 |  #5

that's what i thought.

does it matter if 'me with a 200 f/2 IS' is equivalent to a 'monkey with a high tech PC'? (in terms of photography knowhow)


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Jun 01, 2010 01:47 |  #6

Do it. It is an amazing lens. Believe the hype... :-)

Don't worry about your "knowhow" - there is no test required to buy it. If you can afford the lens, get it, try to wear it out, and have fun!




  
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Jun 01, 2010 01:54 |  #7
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Go for it ;) It's like a 85L on crack


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Jun 01, 2010 02:07 |  #8

If you are not a pro .... I would'nt hesitate, because you have more time and are not obliged to get acceptable results for each session -> I would buy it. You will get really different pictures than really common 135L2.0 and 70-200MKII ... when we see average quality in the "Lens Sample Photo Archive" section .. it's really not same league as the other one.

It would be like a dream to couple to my 24L1.4II a 200L2.0IS and a TC2X (for an extra reach).... I think it would cover all my needs, and I would sell all my other lenses (85L1.2II, 135L2.0, 300L2.8nonIS).


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Jun 02, 2010 19:07 |  #9

thanks! i will then.

last questions:

how long is the overall length of the 200 f/2 with the hood attached?
also how big is the outside diameter of the lens hood?


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Jun 02, 2010 19:11 |  #10

Buy it, you are not going to regret it!




  
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Jun 02, 2010 19:12 |  #11

forthewinwin wrote in post #10280365 (external link)
Go for it ;) It's like a 85L on crack

It's more like a 135L on steroids :lol:




  
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Jun 02, 2010 19:33 as a reply to  @ mike cabilangan's post |  #12

jeree wrote in post #10291642 (external link)
1, try looking for the hieght of the hoodlens (not sure the name)

2, again it should say.

are you buying from amazon?

got it! from the TDP review.

ET-120B Lens Hood. The 5.7 x 4.9" (145 x 125mm) (WxL), 7.2 oz (205g)


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Jun 02, 2010 23:58 |  #13

I'll be a slight contrary voice here. I had a 200 f/1.8 L for a while, and while it was phenomenal I found that it wasn't a magic solution to anything. Plus it was stinking big and heavy! I found that the combo of a 70-200 2.8 IS II plus a 135L gave me a more real world flexible shooting kit. Shallow DOF from the 135 if I need it, flexibility with the zoom for other situations. The difference between f/2 and f/2.8 isn't that big, but the difference in lens diameter and lens weight between a 70-200 2.8 IS and a 200 f/2 is. For me, the 200 1.8 was big enough that it was a specialized lens that I had to plan to take out and shoot. A 70-200 can be tossed in an over the shoulder bag and then I'm out the door.

Most of the really stellar shots I've seen from the 200 f/2 were stellar shots regardless of whether they had been shot at f/2 or f/2.8 - good light, good composition, good subject, good photographers. People who really know their stuff photographically can see the difference, but your average viewer would have a heck of a time sorting out a pile of 135L, 70-200 IS II and 200 f/2 shots taken wide open by the same photographer.

However, if buying the 200 f/2 is enough to satisfy the inner craving inside you - then do it!


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Jun 03, 2010 00:32 |  #14

Sheldon N wrote in post #10293174 (external link)
I'll be a slight contrary voice here. I had a 200 f/1.8 L for a while, and while it was phenomenal I found that it wasn't a magic solution to anything. Plus it was stinking big and heavy! I found that the combo of a 70-200 2.8 IS II plus a 135L gave me a more real world flexible shooting kit. Shallow DOF from the 135 if I need it, flexibility with the zoom for other situations. The difference between f/2 and f/2.8 isn't that big, but the difference in lens diameter and lens weight between a 70-200 2.8 IS and a 200 f/2 is. For me, the 200 1.8 was big enough that it was a specialized lens that I had to plan to take out and shoot. A 70-200 can be tossed in an over the shoulder bag and then I'm out the door.

Most of the really stellar shots I've seen from the 200 f/2 were stellar shots regardless of whether they had been shot at f/2 or f/2.8 - good light, good composition, good subject, good photographers. People who really know their stuff photographically can see the difference, but your average viewer would have a heck of a time sorting out a pile of 135L, 70-200 IS II and 200 f/2 shots taken wide open by the same photographer.

However, if buying the 200 f/2 is enough to satisfy the inner craving inside you - then do it!

Wow, great real-world advice here! I was also going to say think hard regarding the size/weight of the 200/f2, but Sheldon N really nailed it.


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Sheldon N wrote in post #10293174 (external link)
I'll be a slight contrary voice here. I had a 200 f/1.8 L for a while, and while it was phenomenal I found that it wasn't a magic solution to anything. Plus it was stinking big and heavy! I found that the combo of a 70-200 2.8 IS II plus a 135L gave me a more real world flexible shooting kit. Shallow DOF from the 135 if I need it, flexibility with the zoom for other situations. The difference between f/2 and f/2.8 isn't that big, but the difference in lens diameter and lens weight between a 70-200 2.8 IS and a 200 f/2 is. For me, the 200 1.8 was big enough that it was a specialized lens that I had to plan to take out and shoot. A 70-200 can be tossed in an over the shoulder bag and then I'm out the door.

Most of the really stellar shots I've seen from the 200 f/2 were stellar shots regardless of whether they had been shot at f/2 or f/2.8 - good light, good composition, good subject, good photographers. People who really know their stuff photographically can see the difference, but your average viewer would have a heck of a time sorting out a pile of 135L, 70-200 IS II and 200 f/2 shots taken wide open by the same photographer.

However, if buying the 200 f/2 is enough to satisfy the inner craving inside you - then do it!


On this forum there was a comparison @f2.8 between 70-200L2.8II and 200L2.0@F2.8 .... it was very easy to see the difference ..bokeh was smoother and blur was comming quicker and much more regularly with the 200L2.0 ... and we even don't speak when light is falling down, it's a big step between F2.8 and F2.0 ...

I own a 135L2.0, I was very pleased with it but after I bought a 300L2.8nonis for motor sport.. I surprised that contrast and sharpness are so different .. We can see straight away with which lens the picture picture was taken.. Actually I prefer to carry 3kg and be a bit far from pilots then use the very light 135L2.0 even if distance is really accurate with it. Bokeh, contrast and sharpness are much more spectaculer with it, as I can see which of my pictures has got the favor of pilots (for quadbike races). I use the 135L2.0 only when I don't have enough place. If I could afford it, of course I would change my 300L2.8nonIS for the near to perfect 200L2.0..

But what is true, is when a very good photograph takes a pictures, he knows how to manipulate more important parameters like light direction, appopriate DOF, best distance lens/subject/backgroun​dunder to get a nice smooth bokeh, exposure or over exposure to saturate colors, etc etc .... so even with a non L series he will get consistant series of pictures.
For common photograph (like me), it takes more time for every picture and luck will be also more or less a part of the quality of the picture.

But nobody can say that a 70-200LMKII gives same result as 200L2.0 .. you can see directly the difference between the two lenses in one second. Or you should buy or change eye glasses :lol:


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