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Going from 400D to 50D with these lenses?

 
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Jun 05, 2010 06:56 |  #1

Hi everyone,

I want to upgrade my Canon 400D for a better, faster, more sturdy and better performing model in low light.
I currently own the following lenses:

  • Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di II
  • Canon 100mm f/2.8 USM macro
  • Tamron 55-200mm f/4-5.6 LD Macro Di II
I do a lot of macro, landscapes and portraits. Is it worthwhile to make the switch, or should I focus on better lenses instead of buying a new model (though I won't get faster and a more sturdy model for that, but maybe better image quality as well).

Thanks all! ^^

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Jun 05, 2010 07:05 |  #2

The 100mm macro will have no problems on the 50D and I think (though I'm not certain) that the 17-50mm should be ok too. The 55-200mm might (I stress might) suffer some problems. The high pixel density really does start to outresolve lenses and show up errors on camera bodies like the 50D.

I would be tempted to say spend your money on a "better lens" first if at all possible. A 70-200mm L maybe - a 10-20mm - 85mm or 50mm prime for portraits?
Higher grade lenses will nearly always give you a bigger changein image quality than a new camera body will and further they can also give you newer ways to shoot whilst most camera body upgrades only extend your current shooting area limits.


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Jun 05, 2010 08:02 as a reply to  @ Overread's post |  #3

Roger,,when the 50D really shines is with top glass..

Your 100mm f/2.8 macro is a brilliantly sharp lens as most macro primes are.. Your Tamron 17-50mm will also give you great image quality mounted on your 50D (also have the Tamron 17-50mm)..

Your Tamron will be great for landscapes and your 100mm macro great for portraits..

The Tamron is also a really good general purpose zoom.. You might want more reach and I'd be looking at an EF 70-200mm in either f/2.8 or f/4,, both outstanding lenses..


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Jun 05, 2010 15:51 |  #4

Hi all,

thanks for the fast replies!

@overread: I don't think I'm in need of a new/better lens for portrait photography yet. The 100mm f/2.8 is great for portraits and the Tamron 17-50mm does well enough as a 50mm lens for full body portraiture.
I think I'm also looking for a better grip feeling and, as I said, the faster performance of the body.

@Jurgen: As for zooming purposes, I don't really need it yet. The Canon EF 70-200 USM 4.0L would be more in my price-range, the f/2.8 is crazy expensive IMO! ^^ I want to start wildlife photography someday, for which I need a good zoom (preferably more than the 200mm).
Somehow I expect the 100mm to produce even sharper results on the 50D than on the 400D! :D The Tamron is already great in low-light but would do better on the 50D maybe as the 400D seems to produce noise quite fast...


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Jun 06, 2010 16:59 |  #5

@ Jurgen: Do you have an example of the 50D + Tamron results? ^^
By the way the 50D costs around 730 USD here in the Netherlands.


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Jun 06, 2010 20:14 |  #6

The biggest difference when upgrading to an xxD body was the feel and grip. The 400d is simply too tiny! Ergonomics are more important than you think.


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Jun 06, 2010 20:28 |  #7

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@ Jurgen: Do you have an example of the 50D + Tamron results? ^^
By the way the 50D costs around 730 USD here in the Netherlands.

Here are two I can quickly get my hands on..


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Jun 07, 2010 02:56 |  #8

Thanks for the shots Jurgen!

chris jones wrote in post #10314454 (external link)
The biggest difference when upgrading to an xxD body was the feel and grip. The 400d is simply too tiny! Ergonomics are more important than you think.

Yeah, I guess that's why I was looking for a new cam in the first place. I wasn't really bothered by the quality the 400D produces with the lenses I have, but it did feel a bit like a toy camera sometimes... :oops: Don't know if that makes sense, but I feel like I've outgrown my camera! :D Besides, the faster, better ISO performance and extra pixels are a nice bonus as well!
What's the price of the cam where you guys are? Cheapest (new one) I've found here is around 730USD.


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Jun 07, 2010 03:36 |  #9

chris jones wrote in post #10314454 (external link)
The biggest difference when upgrading to an xxD body was the feel and grip. The 400d is simply too tiny! Ergonomics are more important than you think.

I guess this would help to explain why so many pro photographers switched from larger and heavier Nikon F series cameras to significantly smaller and lighter Olympus OM series cameras in the 1970s?

:confused::confused:

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Jun 07, 2010 06:41 |  #10

I also have a 400D and I am thinking of updating to either a xD range or the xxD range. I would welcome any comment on the range I should go for. My current lenses are also list below.


You got to enjoy life & capture every moment:)

Canon 400D EF-S 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6II Canon EF 75-300mm 1:4-5.6 III USM Tamron AF 55-200mm 1:4-5.6 Macro 52 A15 Speedlite 430EX II

  
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Jun 07, 2010 07:05 |  #11

Well, one of the most salient factors for me was that the 50D is the cheapest-best-camera available at the moment! :D The xD cameras are way too expensive for me.


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Jun 07, 2010 10:10 |  #12

Delija wrote in post #10316246 (external link)
I guess this would help to explain why so many pro photographers switched from larger and heavier Nikon F series cameras to significantly smaller and lighter Olympus OM series cameras in the 1970s?

:confused::confused:

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The main reason was for the glorious viewfinders on the OM series.. The difference was night (Nikon) to day (Olympus OM)..

But when I came to outright toughness, the Nikons were hard to beat.. I still have a 1969 vintage Nikon F which I bought second hand in 1975.. It's been a beast of a camera,,,looks very battered and bruised but still works..


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Jun 07, 2010 10:24 |  #13

piper1509 wrote in post #10316652 (external link)
I also have a 400D and I am thinking of updating to either a xD range or the xxD range. I would welcome any comment on the range I should go for. My current lenses are also list below.

I have and use both the 400D and the 50D (both with battery grips). Image quality is very good on both cameras (it is more important the lens you use). Usability of the 50D is much better than the 400D (but I have it loaded with the hack that, among other things, provides the camera with auto ISO and ISO3200 capabilities).

I would recommend to invest only in lens that can be used in full frame cameras such as the 5D MKII. I mostly use the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 and the Canon EF70-200 f4L IS. I also carry the Canon EF85 f1.8 and the Tokina 12-24 f4.

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Jun 08, 2010 15:36 |  #14

Thanks for the advice everyone! I picked it up today.
I went for the camera 'cause I was looking for something more solid and faster. Hope to be able to make some nice shots with it soon.

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Jun 08, 2010 15:43 |  #15

50d + 18-55mm kit lens from Rebel XTi:

IMAGE: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4284185117_ec15f591a2_b.jpg

You don't need L glass to jump to a 50d. The 17-50 is amazing on a 50d though. I have it + love it.



  
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