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7D vs T2i(550D)

 
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Jun 15, 2010 13:14 |  #16

I shoot as a Pro and I dropped the 1Ds Mark II for the T2i. Technology is moving way to fast and I'd rather invest in Pro glass. I think the only diff between the T2i and 7D is T2i's limited in the video control.
Other than that the T2i is one amazing camera, I've even shot the 1D mark IV...for price and value it's T2i plus at the end of the day no one cares, it's the content no the gear, er cough Canon


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Jun 15, 2010 17:33 |  #17

Mick_I wrote in post #10366856 (external link)
I shoot as a Pro and I dropped the 1Ds Mark II for the T2i. Technology is moving way to fast and I'd rather invest in Pro glass. I think the only diff between the T2i and 7D is T2i's limited in the video control.
Other than that the T2i is one amazing camera, I've even shot the 1D mark IV...for price and value it's T2i plus at the end of the day no one cares, it's the content no the gear, er cough Canon

Why didn't you go with the 5dmkii? Probably a better choice for pros, considering it's eligible for CPS.




  
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Jun 17, 2010 01:29 |  #18

I've used the 5dmk2, 1dmk4, and 7D. Out of all 3 I would choose the 7D. Best bang for the buck, reliable, and built well. Sure the 550D is great for the price, but when you're doing serious work day in and out, I'm not so confident in the build quality of the 550D as well as its usability. The 7D is much more intuitive for video and to control.


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Jun 18, 2010 03:44 |  #19

LSV wrote in post #10368323 (external link)
Why didn't you go with the 5dmkii? Probably a better choice for pros, considering it's eligible for CPS.

Why, cost and innovation. The evolution of these cameras is astounding, I'd rather invest in glass or advertising. Don't get me wrong the 5DII is awesome as is the 7D but when this T2i came out I was amazed.
I'm comfortable with 1.6 crop, I love the feather weight, and I can buy 3 T2i's for the price of a 5DII.
The T2i is a little 5DII.
Also in the past ten years the depreciation of the digital body's is heart stopping, the 1V is holding it's value or {{cringe}} Nikon F6
The way I see it? chasing the dragon, I got a buddy that shoot's a XT and 16-35 raking in 300K a year. That opened my eyes!

Also Canon is very good at marketing, very good.
If I shot sports I would have gone 7D, it's in a league of it's own.

It's about ROI and the technology is cheaper and clients want to pay less.
I feel what I'm saying is blasphemous but in the 3-4 years I've gone digital, I have no other choice.
The T2i is for me for the next 6 months.
CPS blah- I got insurance.


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Jun 18, 2010 04:08 |  #20

CJM Photography wrote in post #10362879 (external link)
The 7D is designed for video, it is a much better choice.

I think 7D is designed for photography and the side function is video and t2i is designed gear towards videos and photography, but their video function is similar . I don't have any of those, but i'll make a comment for some extra consideration.

7D is better in
better built body
it has full color temperature control.
more in-between ISO selection
dual wheels.


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Jun 18, 2010 11:44 as a reply to  @ ckckevin's post |  #21

IMHO... In terms of impressing a client (who has a clue about camera models), or impressing a fellow photographer in conversation about gear, you'd want to have the 5D2 or 7D. Just the word Rebel makes you look like a hobbyist in some people's eyes.

That said... In terms of reality... the finished product is what really matters right? There's practically no discernable difference between video shot on a T2i and a 7D, if shot through the same glass, with the same technique and skill. And its half the price of the 7D, and a third the price of the 5D2.

Mick_I's point about preferring to spend money on glass is on the mark, in my opinion. I shoot on both a 5D2 and a 7D, and the biggest quality differences I see usually has to do with what lens I use, not the body. And the body depreciates so much faster than the glass, its ridiculous.

I have a T2i on its way, as a third camera body option for video, when its needed. When its not needed for that purpose, it'll be my wife's walkaround camera, because I'm still afraid to show my face with something that says "Rebel" in my hand. I also never stop to ask for directions. hahahaha


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Jun 18, 2010 19:09 |  #22

Mick_I wrote in post #10383471 (external link)
The T2i is a little 5DII

No, its not.


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Jun 18, 2010 20:27 as a reply to  @ RWatkins's post |  #23

From everything I've heard and seen, the T2i is identical to the 7D in video minus it being a different sensor and that you don't have the extra ISO stops though that may be fixed if a firmware hack is released (one is in the works). I have heard the T2i be coined the mini 7D due to it's video capabilities and the fact that it shares the same 63 zone metering system as the 7D. Where it loses out to the 7D is speed, AF, and handling/build for stills.


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Jun 18, 2010 20:33 |  #24

bpaulette wrote in post #10385253 (external link)
IMHO... In terms of impressing a client (who has a clue about camera models), or impressing a fellow photographer in conversation about gear, you'd want to have the 5D2 or 7D. Just the word Rebel makes you look like a hobbyist in some people's eyes.

......

I actually had some one say to me "why aren't you using an L 24-70?? that's the only one that'll give good pictures. And you don't have the 580EXII??? it's impossible to get good flash photos without that flash! You need to upgrade to pro gear....." :rolleyes: :lol:

I wonder what they would have said if I had a Rebel (I'm possibly looking at replacing the 20D with the T2i) at the time and not the 1D2 :lol:


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Jun 24, 2010 14:52 |  #25

tfd888 wrote in post #10387742 (external link)
From everything I've heard and seen, the T2i is identical to the 7D in video minus it being a different sensor and that you don't have the extra ISO stops though that may be fixed if a firmware hack is released (one is in the works). I have heard the T2i be coined the mini 7D due to it's video capabilities and the fact that it shares the same 63 zone metering system as the 7D. Where it loses out to the 7D is speed, AF, and handling/build for stills.

I think they have the same sensor...;)


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Jun 24, 2010 14:57 |  #26

tfd888 wrote in post #10387760 (external link)
I actually had some one say to me "why aren't you using an L 24-70?? that's the only one that'll give good pictures. And you don't have the 580EXII??? it's impossible to get good flash photos without that flash! You need to upgrade to pro gear....." :rolleyes: :lol:

I wonder what they would have said if I had a Rebel (I'm possibly looking at replacing the 20D with the T2i) at the time and not the 1D2 :lol:

yeap, people see me using the 70-200mm 2.8 think i can see the american flag on the moon:lol:

or people see me using the 50-150 instead of the 70-200 thinks that the sigma lens is a kits lens or something. :mad:


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Jun 24, 2010 15:02 |  #27

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I think they have the same sensor...;)

According to DPReview:

18.7 megapixel CMOS sensor
The 550D uses a new, 18.7 (total) megapixel sensor that's similar, but not exactly the same as the one featured in the 7D (according to our sources at Canon). As before the sensor uses high frequency vibrations to remove dust.

http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/canoneos550d​/ (external link)


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Jun 24, 2010 15:09 |  #28

opps. I guess i have my thought wrong all along. :oops:


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Jun 24, 2010 15:34 |  #29

cheungupdt wrote in post #10420493 (external link)
opps. I guess i have my thought wrong all along. :oops:

I have seen other sources say that it is the exact same sensor except that it only has a 4 channel readout instead of the 7D's 8 channel readout which means the T2i can only shoot up to it's max of 3.7 FPS instead of the 7D's max of 8 FPS. I guess only Canon knows ;)


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Jun 26, 2010 01:39 |  #30

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Why would you say that? It's a) not true and b) overhyping.

First of all, they are both dslr cameras, thus both are made to take photos, and not serve as a video camera.

Secondly, 7d and 550d video performance are actually spot on the same. The reason one would get 7d over the 550d is solely
-micro adjustment, calibration
-build quality, body
-sports shooting (numerous advantages fall into this category, such as fps, twin proc, af system..)

If you're not a sports photographer and you don't have enormous hands, there is almost no reason to get the 7d over the 550d. That is since lens calibration is done way better at a repair shop anyhow (different focal lengths ..).


Correct me if I am wrong.

You forgot perhaps the 7D's biggest advantage for video, a really good AF system. Also some people really prefer CF cards over SD because of their speed and durability.

Personally I have a T2i. I love it for both video and pictures. If I had the money though, I would have gotten a 7D for its better AF, size, weight, and weather sealing.


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