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Keep 135mm and get ext tubes, or sell to get 100mm/2.8L IS?

 
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Jun 15, 2010 13:22 |  #1

I recently purchased a 135mm/F2 and I love it. Once it hit my camera I just can't take it off. Even when it's too long I make it work somehow. When I'm in close quarters I put one of my 50mm's or 35/2 on, but then immediately want to put the 135mm back on. It has that je ne sais quois. It's my first L Prime (second L, had a 24-105mm).

I want to do some food photography (not professionally, just for myself). I can get pretty close with my 35/2, but my other primes don't get close enough, the 85/1.8 and 135mm. Sometimes I want to fill the frame with half or 3/4 of a plate of food etc. I don't need true macro 1:1 capabilities, but maybe that'll be fun. So I was thinking of getting some extension tubes, which will allow me to use them on all of my lenses.

However, rumors of a new 135mm with IS (just rumors, nothing substantial) makes me think, maybe I should look into the 100mm/2.8L. I'll be giving up, what I think is a 1/3 stop? But I'll gain IS, which won't help me freeze motion but for food and other portraits (my main subjects with this lens) it may help a lot. I can sell my 135 and get the 100mm macro for roughly no loss.

I won't mind the difference in FL. Sometimes the extra 35mm is too long. Sometimes. So what do you guys think, will I lose anything else by going down to the 100mm macro other than a third of a stop? Again, macro isn't my forte but I can see myself messing around with it. No bugs though, I'm deathly afraid. If there is a beetle in front of a door I go around back.




  
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Jun 15, 2010 13:33 |  #2

If you love the lens then keep it. I don't seen them coming out with a 135mm IS anytime soon. It would add weight to an already fast prime lens. There are people like myself who like the simplicity and compactness of a fast prime like the 135L. The reason you might see a 100L 2.8 macro with IS is because macro lenses require a steadier hand to get a good close up pictures. Having tried my hand at macro photography, I just don't shoot enough bugs to justify having a macro specific lens when then 135L is just so damn awesome.




  
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Jun 15, 2010 13:40 |  #3

The 135L is actually 1 full stop faster then the 100L IS Macro.


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Jun 15, 2010 14:23 as a reply to  @ Jdmhood's post |  #4

What camera do you shoot with? Depending on your MPs and your desired output you could just crop to your desired framing.


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Jun 15, 2010 14:32 |  #5

its a simple variable that you need to decide on..... do you need the extra stop @ F/2? or not?

^^^ Based on that your decision should become quite easy.


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Jun 15, 2010 14:32 |  #6

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Jdmhood. thanks for that. Fstops don't confuse me. Calculating them does.

Yusef, I don't see them coming out with one soon either. That's why I'm contemplating this. It's a poor mans version of the 135mm IS. It's a 100mm IS that's a stop slower :D. The IS on the macro actually doesn't help much on the macro side of things (up to a stop perhaps) but at regular focusing lengths it helps immensely. Up to 4 stops better.

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Jun 15, 2010 14:35 |  #7

JayStar86 wrote in post #10367321 (external link)
its a simple variable that you need to decide on..... do you need the extra stop @ F/2? or not?

^^^ Based on that your decision should become quite easy.

Simple variable that isn't so simple to determine - I really don't know until I lose that stop :lol:

But, an update to my original post. Buddy has the macro. He's never even mounted the damn thing. I'm going to trade him for a few days and see what happens. If i get the fun factor of very close shots and normal portraits, with IS, I may go for it.




  
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Jun 15, 2010 16:51 |  #8

jdang307 wrote in post #10367331 (external link)
Simple variable that isn't so simple to determine - I really don't know until I lose that stop :lol:

But, an update to my original post. Buddy has the macro. He's never even mounted the damn thing. I'm going to trade him for a few days and see what happens. If i get the fun factor of very close shots and normal portraits, with IS, I may go for it.

I hear yah. Its a simple variable but hard to decide no doubt about it. I think you will like the 100L Macro. Its nice to be able to try things before buying.


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Jun 15, 2010 17:16 |  #9

Why not just keep the 135mm and get the 100mm 2.8 Without IS ? It's still better than using the tubes with the 135mm.

100mm 2.8 with USM motor will run you around $400; but it's a great lens.

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Jun 15, 2010 18:09 |  #10

Yeah I thought about that. But the IS is one of the reasons drawing me in. Plus I'm trying to do this without putting out a dime. Just bought a house, and spent $22k to refurbish the whole thing inside. So yeah, I can shuffle around, I can't shell out any dough :D




  
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Jun 15, 2010 18:52 as a reply to  @ jdang307's post |  #11

i have 135L. and i had 100mm usm macro too, but i sold it because after looking at pictures i took, i realized that i rarely need magnification above 1:2.
i love shooting flowers, but when i had both lenses, i always prefer 135L when i don't need high magnification. because i'm crazy about 135L's bokeh.
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with tubes, 135L is great for macro-like photography too!
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i shoot lots of portraitures and candids, and i love 135L ability in isolating subject.
but, if you shoot macro a lot, i'm sure you can get better and sharper result with true macro lens.

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Jun 15, 2010 20:54 as a reply to  @ reza187's post |  #12

Easily fixed.. Why not buy a set of extention tubes and use them on your 50mm and 85mm lenses??

And for god sake,,keep your 135L!!


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Jun 15, 2010 21:35 |  #13

I would never get rid of the 135mm 2.0 in favor of a 100mm 2.8 macro. I believe this might be a move that you could later regret.




  
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At macro subject distances it seems likely that you'll want to be using a tripod anyway, since even stopped down a bunch your DoF is limited and handheld foreward/backward motion could be a problem


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Jun 15, 2010 22:14 as a reply to  @ anthony11's post |  #15

If you're looking at food photography... you may want to look at the TS-E lens. That's Tilt & Shift if you don't know. Most people think tilt & shift lens are only for those weird and cool effects but that's only a bonus thing. TS-E lens are designed for product photography and architecture or landscape shots. You can manipulate the lens to get as much dof as possible or as little dof as possible. Its a "hit two birds with a stone" thing...

Minimum focusing distance for the 90mm TS-E is 1'6". Not as close as the 100mm macro 2.8 which is 1' but still pretty close anyway. Other TS-E lens have even closer minimum focus distances. I have the old non-L macro lens and its a great lens but I think the 90mm TS-E lens I have is better for my product photography work. It doesn't hurt that the manual focusing ring on the 90mm is the smoothest I have ever felt with perfect dampening...

About the tubes, I have read that the 90mm does work with tubes but its not officially supported. I have no experience in this, though.

Tripods are a must have thing for macro photography or simple product photography. I avoided buying tripods for a few years... The very moment I started using a good tripod, I felt stupid. Should have bought one a long time ago!




  
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