The 38th 'How'd We Ever Do It Without Jon?' TPBM Silliness Chat

We got rain too Crissa ..

Lisa you sound like me trying to do something you shouldnt tackle alone but your brain didnt get the memo

Crissa Eli was such a juicy baby ..how cute ,Oh and which niece is going to hong kong and for what reason?

I downloaded the CS5 trial, I like.

Interestingly enough my photos in LR look eh, when I p[pen in bridge -> CS5 they look way better. I guess it is in the rendering?

Permagrin wrote in post #10441490
Sounds idyllic. I wish we'd had a few more days over at our beach. It was perfect.

I don't think we need sand permits here. I'm pretty sure that if it's allowed (some beaches it is, some it isn't) then you can drive on it.

You guys have a whole different kind of beach. From what I see you have mostly fishermen, outdoor people, photographers, and dog walkers. We have beaches like that and Leyla and I gravitate to them. Unfortunately most east coast beaches are either developed with big beach houses and little public access points or are developed with boardwalks and arcades and 8 billion city people are writhing all over them playing with bright plastic crap they bought at wall mart that will break before they leave. Those beaches are generally highly regulated with tons of rules, no dogs, curfews, gah. We avoid those beaches. There are state and federal areas that are more natural with bugs and uncombed sand. That is usually enough to keep a lot of city folk away. There are generally entrance fees(like $8) for these areas and for a season fee of over $100 you can drive on some remote beaches as long as you get a permit and have proper recovery equipment in the truck in case you get stuck.

Miniflash wrote in post #10441570
Lisa you sound like me trying to do something you shouldnt tackle alone but your brain didnt get the memo

hahahahaha! That sounds like something Dan would say to me.

Julia is going to spend 3 weeks with a friend from camp who can't come to camp this year. My brother is friends with her parents. She is nervous and the whole family is a little wary about the situation, but my brother and SIL are what they are and feel it is OK for their 9 year old to fly unaccompanied 18 hours and changing flights...

Hi Jim, it was nice, thanks.

Skrim17 wrote in post #10441591
Julia is going to spend 3 weeks with a friend from camp who can't come to camp this year. My brother is friends with her parents. She is nervous and the whole family is a little wary about the situation, but my brother and SIL are what they are and feel it is OK for their 9 year old to fly unaccompanied 18 hours and changing flights...

Gulp ..wouldnt be me but she'll prob.do fine

monkeygirl wrote in post #10441030
Deb - John is saying Solana Beach, Encinitas, Carlsbad, Del Mar areas. Downtown SD is not to bad also, as there has been alot of construction and stuff going on down there.

Those are all coastal communities and are a bit upscale. Del Mar in particular has done everything possible to discourage anyone from other parts of the county from visiting thier city, including enforcing parking meters 24/7 and banning smoking anywhere in public in the city. The other areas are not as bad, but still expensive to buy houses there.

The plus side is that the Coaster commuter train runs down the coast from Oceanside to San Diego every day except Sunday. Oceanside is another coastal city, but is the gateway to Camp Pendelton so some neighborhoods are less desirable than others. Oceanside has a pronounced gang problem as well.

There are neighbor hoods within the city limits of San Diego that are nice places to live and the incorporated city of La Mesa is not a bad area either.

Skrim17 wrote in post #10441298
I shot with flash the whole time at the reception this weekend, I had no confidence that I would get fast enough shutter speeds for the dancing and games that were going on. In the sanctuary I used flash for fill as it had a wall of windows. I completely understand the term "expose for the background" but am not really sure how to do it, so I opted for fill.

I think in general you lose a little of the 'richness' inherent in a non flash low light shoot, but I am glad I got the shots I did at the shutter speeds I needed.

If you try to rely on the flash to provide fill, then sometimes it really doesn't work all that well. It's just the inherent nature of the Canon flash system. Sometimes it's better to expose for the background and let the flash handle the light on the foreground subject.

These two shots are a perfect example. In the first, I was exposing in Av for the foreground subject and let the flash act as fill. I was getting good exposure on the subject, but the bright background was blowing out. I switched to M and set the camera for proper exposure on the bright background. I then adjusted the flash output to give good exposure on the foreground subject. I still had to add a little fill light in PP to balance the exposure.

Zaney hi ..I hear ya on the beaches . I grew up in Erie pa the beaches where fabulous beautiful sand river rocks ..First time I go to the eastern coast I'm running the other way due to too many people

I'm sure she'll be fine. Either way I wanted to get her some stuff to occupy her time!! I have a cheapo MP3 payer I am going to load with audio books and podcasts (webkinz, american girl etc) and some books and mad lib type games too.

Dan and his sister used to fly down to LA every summer to stay with their grandparents. They were unaccompanied. The airlines are pretty good with minors.

JWright wrote in post #10441641
If you try to rely on the flash to provide fill, then sometimes it really doesn't work all that well. It's just the inherent nature of the Canon flash system. Sometimes it's better to expose for the background and let the flash handle the light on the foreground subject.

These two shots are a perfect example. In the first, I was exposing in Av for the foreground subject and let the flash act as fill. I was getting good exposure on the subject, but the bright background was blowing out. I switched to M and set the camera for proper exposure on the bright background. I then adjusted the flash output to give good exposure on the foreground subject. I still had to add a little fill light in PP to balance the exposure.

I understand the concept but I don't know how to actually DO that. Hafta read up some more...

I bounced the flash for fill and it worked fine, a little over exposure in the background, but nothing I couldn't adjust with levels and masking.

Skrim17 wrote in post #10441591
Julia is going to spend 3 weeks with a friend from camp who can't come to camp this year. My brother is friends with her parents. She is nervous and the whole family is a little wary about the situation, but my brother and SIL are what they are and feel it is OK for their 9 year old to fly unaccompanied 18 hours and changing flights...

Miniflash wrote in post #10441637
Gulp ..wouldnt be me but she'll prob.do fine

Skrim17 wrote in post #10441651
I'm sure she'll be fine. Either way I wanted to get her some stuff to occupy her time!! I have a cheapo MP3 payer I am going to load with audio books and podcasts (webkinz, american girl etc) and some books and mad lib type games too.

Airlines are very good with unaccompanied kids. They get the full treatment and get bumped up to 1st class for nothing usually And they never let a lone man (sex discrimination) sit next to an unaccompanied child.

I've had many flights like that before, and know many who do. There is plenty to do on the flight and the crew do keep a good eye on the kids.