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Jun 16, 2010 11:38 |  #1

I just booked my 3rd wedding, YEAH! I'm on cloud nine! :)

Anyways, the wedding chapel has huge windows all around it kinda like the church inthis picture (external link), and I want to make sure I'm shooting properly to get the best shots I can.
What settings, suggestions, tips, gear would you use. And how should I use my flash?

I will be going to the dinner rehearsal the night before so I'll get some practice then.

thanks in advance! :)

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Jun 16, 2010 11:56 |  #2

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Jun 16, 2010 12:30 |  #3

So the windows are behind the alter? And they're clear? And there's a nice view?

I would avoid flash at all costs as they will probably just reflect off the glass. That reflection will also screw with your metering. I would do natural light. Get up around the side and use the light coming through that window onto the couple's faces up at the alter.

The down side is that, shooting up the aisle, you will probably blow out the view out the window in exchange for exposing for the couple. This is where lighting could help to balance the scene, but I would still avoid it owing to reflections.

Possibly, the exposure readings between the outside/window and the couple are close enough that you can be close enough to right on the bright and dark ends and then bring them both back in PP.


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Jun 16, 2010 12:55 |  #4

What time during the day will it be? If its at night then it could be real pretty, but during the day it could be a lighting nightmare.


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Jun 16, 2010 13:50 |  #5

Red Tie Photography wrote in post #10373236 (external link)
What time during the day will it be? If its at night then it could be real pretty, but during the day it could be a lighting nightmare.

It'd be tough at night, too, because that glass will turn into one big mirror after dark.


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Jun 16, 2010 15:37 |  #6

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So the windows are behind the alter? And they're clear? And there's a nice view?

I would avoid flash at all costs as they will probably just reflect off the glass. That reflection will also screw with your metering. I would do natural light. Get up around the side and use the light coming through that window onto the couple's faces up at the alter.

The down side is that, shooting up the aisle, you will probably blow out the view out the window in exchange for exposing for the couple. This is where lighting could help to balance the scene, but I would still avoid it owing to reflections.

Possibly, the exposure readings between the outside/window and the couple are close enough that you can be close enough to right on the bright and dark ends and then bring them both back in PP.

yes the windows are clear and its a beautiful view on an ozark 'mountain' overlooking a lake.
And the wedding is in the evening at 5ish, and I believe it faces the south although I'm not entirely sure about that. So maybe the lighting won't be a horrible nightmare, I've seen pictures where the background and the couple is exposed properly. Hopefully there will be appropriate lighting above them so I won't need flash to expose them as well.

Thanks for the tips so far. If someone has an example with the EXIF data I would REALLY appreciate it.


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Jun 16, 2010 17:26 |  #7

You will need to either blow out the background, or add light. Adding light I would probably bounce a big strobe or two off the ceiling, but I wouldn't use it all the time, i'd use radio triggers that I could turn off. Get the lights up high, and make sure you can't see their reflection in the glass.

This is the same technique as sunsets - expose for the background, flash for the foreground. The only difference is reflections in the glass.


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Jun 16, 2010 17:39 |  #8

tim wrote in post #10374778 (external link)
You will need to either blow out the background, or add light. Adding light I would probably bounce a big strobe or two off the ceiling, but I wouldn't use it all the time, i'd use radio triggers that I could turn off. Get the lights up high, and make sure you can't see their reflection in the glass.

This is the same technique as sunsets - expose for the background, flash for the foreground. The only difference is reflections in the glass.

thanks tim, you always have great advice!
I've always wondered how you positioned off camera flash at a wedding and manage to keep it out of the view of the guests and from getting knocked over?


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Jun 16, 2010 17:50 |  #9

If it were me, I would avoid flash. With the sun streaming in from the south, pictures shot from the sides looking back at the couple could be stunning. For the ones shooting from the aisle, I'd let the windows blow out for most, but I'd also expose some for the window. The couple may be salvagable in processing. Regardless, I'd think some silouette-type of images of them in front of that big window during the ceremony could be spectacular.


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Jun 16, 2010 17:55 |  #10

SnapsbyPoteat wrote in post #10374851 (external link)
thanks tim, you always have great advice!
I've always wondered how you positioned off camera flash at a wedding and manage to keep it out of the view of the guests and from getting knocked over?

I've never had to use flash during a church ceremony. Once in a hotel I used two ABs at the back of the small room, ceiling bounce.


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Jun 16, 2010 18:50 |  #11

SnapsbyPoteat wrote in post #10374142 (external link)
If someone has an example with the EXIF data I would REALLY appreciate it.

Unless you have the same gear and will be standing in the same spot as the photo submitted, EXIF info won't do you any good.

And you'd seriously consider using flash during a ceremony? I probably take at least a 100 shots and certainly wouldn't want to mimic an electrical storm.

If the backlight is strong coming through that window then this will be a nightmare.




  
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Jun 16, 2010 20:46 |  #12

RT McAllister wrote in post #10375175 (external link)
If the backlight is strong coming through that window then this will be a nightmare.

thanks for the confidence and encouragement it is really empowering.
That is obviously the reason I asked for advice to try to avoid that.

Seriously, lets stick to practical advice! haha :)


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Jun 16, 2010 20:47 |  #13

Peacefield wrote in post #10374926 (external link)
If it were me, I would avoid flash. With the sun streaming in from the south, pictures shot from the sides looking back at the couple could be stunning. For the ones shooting from the aisle, I'd let the windows blow out for most, but I'd also expose some for the window. The couple may be salvagable in processing. Regardless, I'd think some silouette-type of images of them in front of that big window during the ceremony could be spectacular.


I don't know how strong the sun will be at 5 in the evening probably too low for it to really be 'streaming in.' But I will for sure expose for the window and do some side shots & also silhouettes.


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