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2 bodies: FF & crop, or FF & FF?

 
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Jun 16, 2010 17:11 |  #1

Hi guys,

Aside from the money thing, what is your preference in terms of FF/crop in a 2nd body for weddings? Do you like the fact that a crop gives a perceived longer range with the current stock of lens, or do you prefer the same sensor size on both so each lens you have works consistently between them?

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Jun 16, 2010 17:23 |  #2

I only own crops, but I have an assistant with a 5D that I can use at will. Honestly it makes no difference to me whether it's a crop or FF body, what's more important is that the controls are the same so I have to think less.

I plan to buy two FF bodies in the near future (D3s/D700 probably).


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Jun 16, 2010 17:57 |  #3

I like FF so don't think I'd like two crops,

I enjoy having one of each. I like the way it doubles my lens assortment. Between those two bodies and my 35mm and 85mm lenses, I also get a 50mm and 135mm for free! That said, I like the way some lenses perform more on the 5D2 than the 50D and there are times that I wish I had a second 5D2. I'm fine with what I have for now, though, and will wait until the next generation (who knows how long that will be) to add a second FF to the kit.

Even then, though, I will be glad to still have that crop body in the bag to double the ol' assortment of lenses.


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Jun 16, 2010 20:55 as a reply to  @ Peacefield's post |  #4

i really like the 17-55 on my 7D. if i had the money i'd def. have a 5dII with a 70-200L 2.8 IS II on it and would be happy as all hell with that combo. (plus a couple primes :) but that body combo would suit me well, i'm sure.


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Jun 16, 2010 21:31 |  #5

I prefer 2 full frame cameras. 1 crop and 1 FF gets frustrating to me, and 2 crop cameras would be...consistently like I used to shoot. I still use a crop camera for very specific situations.


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Jun 16, 2010 23:14 |  #6

I didn't mind a FF + 1.3x crop.
I have a FF + FF combo right now.




  
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Jun 18, 2010 01:31 |  #7

I'm quite happy with 5D² and 7D Combo. I stick the 35L on one and the 85 on the other and I'm good to go :)


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Jun 18, 2010 03:45 |  #8

I prefer having the same model, if not, they need to be really similar in terms of ergonomics. For example, D700 + D200 (FX + DX), 5DMKII and 5D (FF + FF), dual 5Ds. I once entertained a 1DMKIII and 5DMKII but that didn't go well (didn't like 1.3 crop).

That said, I was also happy with a D200 + D90 (DX + DX) at one stage. As long as I have the required lenses, I'm not really phased anymore between FF/crop. I'm kinda over FF despite still sticking to it.


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Jun 21, 2010 05:35 |  #9

I'm enjoying 1 of each - 5DII & 7D. I usually have 24-70mm or 85mm on the 5D and 30mm or 70-200mm on the 7D. If space is limited during the service I'll sometimes stick the 85mm on the 7D while the 24-70 is on the 5DII. Works well for me!


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Jun 21, 2010 09:59 |  #10

I will always use at least one crop. Having FF only would piss me off and make me feel limited in certain ways.

In some cases, I find the thin DOF to be a hinderance... often I need more. Stopping down and cranking ISO is NOT the same... sorry. 1600 on a modern crop like the 7D or even the 40D is better than 6400 on FF. And shooting wide open vs stopped down gives a different quality to bokeh.

The artificial reach is a very welcome thing to me. 200mm on FF is a LOT less reach than on a crop. The difference is HUGE. I like to stay far away from the couple during the ceremony and reception so they don't notice me. At 200mm on FF, you still have to be pretty darn close to get a closeup of the couple sitting at the head table or something. And once you start getting into lenses above 200mm, they become big, heavy, and expensive.

For wedding shooting, FF is not giving any significant advantage on the ultrawide end. There are excellent ultrawide options for crop bodies. In fact, there are MORE crop ultrawide options than there are for FF. I shoot most of my ultrawide shots on my crop as a result. One disadvantage for crops is that there is no 24mm F/1.4 equivalent. But it's not like that is a common lens for wedding photographers to have.

Another advantage to having both formats is that your primes sorta become two primes in one. For example, a 35mm gives a FOV close to a 50mm on crop, as does 24/35, 50/85, 85/135, 135/200.

As long as canon makes prosumer/pro crops, I will use them. I tried shooting FF only and it was frustrating.

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I prefer having the same model, if not, they need to be really similar in terms of ergonomics. For example, D700 + D200 (FX + DX), 5DMKII and 5D (FF + FF), dual 5Ds. I once entertained a 1DMKIII and 5DMKII but that didn't go well (didn't like 1.3 crop).

That said, I was also happy with a D200 + D90 (DX + DX) at one stage. As long as I have the required lenses, I'm not really phased anymore between FF/crop. I'm kinda over FF despite still sticking to it.

5D and 5D2 are nothing alike in term of interface. Using them side by side is terrible as the button layout is the same, but all the buttons do different things.


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Jun 21, 2010 10:38 |  #11

Well, I was sure I waw going to go 2 5d2's, but after Lloyds post im reconsidering getting a7d. It will deffinately fit my budget better right now, similar interface as a 5d2, uses the same batteries, and I don't have to get rid of my crop lenses.


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