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C & C's please for - Flower innards - is this sharp?

 
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Jun 19, 2010 10:48 |  #1

Camera = 40D / Lens = 100mm F2.8 Macro USM / Flash = MT-24ex
Photoshop Editing = None
Photoshop = Re-sized only
(simply opened in CS3 and reduced file to comply with 150kb limit)
Original EXIF available

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Jun 19, 2010 23:14 |  #2

i like it. i think if you would have bumped up to a higher f stop that would be even better, but that just my opinion.


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Jun 20, 2010 11:18 |  #3

looks sharp enough but Canon do recommend use of USM in Photoshop.


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Jun 20, 2010 17:52 |  #4

@ BlakeG - thanks for the tip - I will certainly select a smaller aperture for 'sharper' shots ;)
@ Racketman - thank you. I do not understand this point. Why must I resort to editing images using Unsharp Mask (USM) for 'Sharp(er)' photographs?


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Jun 20, 2010 19:47 |  #5

Cham_001 wrote in post #10396625 (external link)
@ BlakeG - thanks for the tip - I will certainly select a smaller aperture for 'sharper' shots ;)
@ Racketman - thank you. I do not understand this point. Why must I resort to editing images using Unsharp Mask (USM) for 'Sharp(er)' photographs?

because that's the way the dslr cameras are set up - ie with minimal in camera processing unlike compacts. A lot of people take their new dslr straight back to the shop when they see the out of camera shots on their screen complaining their P&S was much sharper.
As a guide Canon suggest using USM 300/.3/0 - see pages 30 to 31 (external link).
I don't understand posters (not you) on some forums stating that 'no sharpening was applied' as if it is cheating - you are meant to sharpen! This applies especially to RAW of course but even most jpegs need some work though you can of course set sharpening to a degree in camera. My 135mm prime can produce pretty sharp images but even so a little USM will make a difference.


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Jun 21, 2010 01:01 |  #6

racketman wrote in post #10397045 (external link)
because that's the way the dslr cameras are set up - ie with minimal in camera processing unlike compacts. A lot of people take their new dslr straight back to the shop when they see the out of camera shots on their screen complaining their P&S was much sharper.
As a guide Canon suggest using USM 300/.3/0 - see pages 30 to 31 (external link).
I don't understand posters (not you) on some forums stating that 'no sharpening was applied' as if it is cheating - you are meant to sharpen! This applies especially to RAW of course but even most jpegs need some work though you can of course set sharpening to a degree in camera. My 135mm prime can produce pretty sharp images but even so a little USM will make a difference.

Toby, huge thanks for this bit of enlightenment!
I have silently wondered why my photos have looked rather 'soft'. I have of course saved this file for future reference - thank you again!
I simply assumed that once you take a photograph using a DSLR, you are then 'good-to-go' with it as one would expect with a standard SLR of 'olde'.
Clearly, this is not the case as technologically 'things' are different!

So, my workflow must now allow for Post-Processing in order to make the best out of this DSLR technology.
I have not worried about the 'cheating-aspect', I just have not had the time to PP before submitting images back to clients!
(I suppose by rights, I should do a mass recall to do justice to both images and clients!)

My mantra will now be:
"... the captured image is now only the beginning of its journey ..."
this also translates to: "... shoot less and edit more ..."

I think that Canon should include an A5 'warning notice' highlighting this focus/sharpening aspect with ALL issued DSLRs.

Out of curiosity, does this apply to Nikon DSLR users too ?


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Jun 22, 2010 17:02 |  #7

You will find loads of info on sharpening Nikon images in relevant forums, people endlessly debate different workflows, whether to turn off in camera jpeg sharpening etc.


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