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Jun 19, 2010 20:12 |  #1

Looking at 2 used 40Ds...both in mint condition....both with 2 Canon batteries and original packaging. Equal in terms of what I would receive.

1 = 1100 actuations for $575

2 = 11,000 actuations for $475


Is it worth $100 to have 10K less actuations?

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Jun 19, 2010 20:15 |  #2

Not in my opinion. I would rather have the extra $100 to put toward another lens like the Nifty Fifty or a grip. A shutter can fail at the first actuation, or it could be going strong at 100,000 actuations.


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Jun 19, 2010 20:15 |  #3

To me, no - the MTBF of the 40D is 100,000 and while the shutter can go at any time a matter 11,000 is still not a very large number of actuations.




  
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Jun 19, 2010 20:16 |  #4

Well with a shutter life of 100,000.00 clicks, 10,000.00 clicks is 10% of its maximum life span, so I would probably spend the extra $100.00 to get a body with less clicks on it.

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Jun 19, 2010 20:17 |  #5

What is wrong with the 11k actuation camera? That's a very good price, are you certain there isn't a fair bit more abuse towards the body itself? If the camera is in good condition, 11k actuations is nothing.

e: For most people 10k clicks is months of use, if you consider the extra 100$ available now to put towards a new lens/other accessories, it's definitely worth it.

e: Also 100,000 clicks doesn't mean that's it's maximum lifespan, and Patrick knows that, the shutter can fail at 20k, 10k, 300, 150k, 300k, 1m, etc. It's still got a LOT of shooting left in it, most likely, and it's probably several months to an entire year of shooting, the 9,000~ difference between the two cameras.


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Jun 19, 2010 20:22 as a reply to  @ shmoogy's post |  #6

Actually the most used cam has 10,411 so there is 9300 clicks difference. It is in mint condition....pristine with no blemishes.




  
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Jun 19, 2010 20:35 |  #7

Saint728 wrote in post #10392366 (external link)
Well with a shutter life of 100,000.00 clicks, 10,000.00 clicks is 10% of its maximum life span, so I would probably spend the extra $100.00 to get a body with less clicks on it.

Take Care,
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You think I should spen 20% more for 10% more projected shutter life? Isn;t $100 almost half the cost of a new shutter?




  
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Jun 19, 2010 22:29 |  #8

Depends in what condition the camera is.


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Jun 20, 2010 07:56 |  #9

turbo_911 wrote in post #10392922 (external link)
Depends in what condition the camera is.

Both are in mint condition...not a scratch on either.




  
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Jun 20, 2010 08:02 |  #10

Saint728 wrote in post #10392366 (external link)
Well with a shutter life of 100,000.00 clicks, 10,000.00 clicks is 10% of its maximum life span, ..

SHutters are not rated at maximum life spand. THere is nothing magical about the 100k limit and when you reach it, the camera will not stop working.

Shutters are based on MTBF (mean time before failure) meaning that at 100k actuations 1/2 of all cameras in earth will have had a failed shutter and the other 1/2 will still be working. A shutter can fail on the very first picture taken, or last into the millions of actuation. There is no way of knowing which one you have.

turbo_911 wrote in post #10392922 (external link)
Depends in what condition the camera is.

Exactly, that's all that counts.

raylfreeman wrote in post #10394246 (external link)
Both are in mint condition...not a scratch on either.

If both are in identical condition, take the one that costs less.


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Jun 20, 2010 09:15 |  #11

40D's have issues with shutter replacement ($210 or so on an ERR99). Mine was replaced right around 10K clicks, so either body may be experience this. They are rated at 100K clicks, but a lot of them don't make it that far. Do a search on 40D and ERR99 or shutter.

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Jun 20, 2010 10:04 |  #12

raylfreeman wrote in post #10392390 (external link)
Actually the most used cam has 10,411...

I've done more than twice that over a four day race meeting.
In my world, that camera's done less than 5 days work.
If I was looking for another body, I'd buy it.

JohnJ80 wrote in post #10394445 (external link)
...They are rated at 100K clicks, but a lot of them don't make it that far. Do a search on 40D and ERR99 or shutter.

J.

But a lot more make it further than 100k.
Someone who has a 40D and had no problem with is not going to post that they have.
That's why there are "so many" people say that they do.
For every person who's had a shutter problem with a 40D, I guess that there are 100 who haven't.

Forget the naysayers...as has already been pointed out, a shutter can go at anytime - doesn't matter what body it is.
It is a mechanical part and mechanical parts fail at some stage.
I replaced TWO in my old 10D.
The first shutter went at around 160000 and the second at 1200000.
The camera had about 60000 on it's third shutter when the camera (not the shutter) died and went to Canonon heaven.
My 1D MkII had its shutter go in February at 187, 737 actuations.
My 40D has around 90k on it.

The chances are that you'll upgrade the body before you kill the shutter on it.


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Jun 20, 2010 10:11 |  #13

I sold one of my 40's when I got my 50, so the 40 was barely a year old. The 40 had 80k shots on it and was very tidy. The buyer knew the history of the camera so was happy to pay 70% of the original price and he's still using it happily today on an every day basis with happily over 100k on the clock


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Jun 20, 2010 10:12 as a reply to  @ philwillmedia's post |  #14

And the 40D is a good upgrade from the XS correct? By selling my XS getting the 40D will cost me less than $200.




  
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Jun 20, 2010 10:25 |  #15

If you get the 40D, make sure you read the manual or this might happen https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=430473


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