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Jun 21, 2010 14:11 |  #1

After uploading pictures to Photobucket or flickr. The image is wash out or tone down compare to original jpeg file.
Original picture are view in ACDsee sRGB color space. Picture is save in PS CS5 sRGB. Color sRGB color managment used. All the setting is set to sRGB in my computer.
Why is the color tone down in web gallery? If I download the full image and open in my computer. The color look correct.
Do web gallery use different color management? or Am i doing something wrong?


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Jun 21, 2010 15:45 |  #2

Have you tried the save for web feature in photoshop. That should help.


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Jun 21, 2010 15:48 |  #3

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Have you tried the save for web feature in photoshop. That should help.

That will just make the file size smaller and strip the exif, it will not improve the image for online viewing. Will it?


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Jun 21, 2010 16:36 |  #4

neil_r wrote in post #10402265 (external link)
That will just make the file size smaller and strip the exif, it will not improve the image for online viewing. Will it?

To a certain extent. It will show only web colors, so you will get a better idea of how the image will look.


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Jun 21, 2010 16:38 |  #5

czynot wrote in post #10401704 (external link)
Why is the color tone down in web gallery? If I download the full image and open in my computer. The color look correct.
Do web gallery use different color management? or Am i doing something wrong?

Is your monitor calibrated? Is it only your images that are toned down or do all of the images that you view online look dull? Have you looked at them on different monitors?


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Jun 22, 2010 02:12 |  #6

When you save your photograph, save it in sRGB. This makes a huge difference, sRGB is made especially for windows web browsers color, so the colors tend to be more vibrant and contrasty as you may have shot your photograph. Good luck!


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Jun 23, 2010 00:05 |  #7

I have the same problem and save for web resolves the issue, but how do I save an image to reflect the true colours of my monitor but with the exif information?


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Jun 23, 2010 08:40 |  #8

rwong2k wrote in post #10410730 (external link)
I have the same problem and save for web resolves the issue, but how do I save an image to reflect the true colours of my monitor but with the exif information?



Saving it in SRGB works for me.


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Jun 24, 2010 00:40 |  #9

it's weird on my system

save as web the colours are fine, save as the colours are blank,
i made sure it's in RGB mode and i tried turning on and off the colour profile option in save as

the reason I don't want to use save as web is because i wanted the exif information attached =(

help?

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Jun 24, 2010 17:59 |  #10

I figured out the problem but not too sure how to fix it

if i open up the photo and goto edit > convert to profile and then to srgb it's fine
How can i default the profile to srgb?

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Jun 24, 2010 18:42 |  #11

rwong2k wrote in post #10421327 (external link)
I figured out the problem but not too sure how to fix it

if i open up the photo and goto edit > convert to profile and then to srgb it's fine
How can i default the profile to srgb?

thank-you
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Depending which photoshop you are using, you can change the default under edit, and then click on color settings. If you are working in ACR, then click on the link at the bottom of the page and it will load up a box that you can change the defaults.


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Jun 24, 2010 21:46 |  #12

The problem is not on your side. The problem is the compression that the websites use. Every tiny bit saved on each photo adds up fast whan you have millions of photos in your servers.

The save for web feature is a good semi solution. Photoshop has a much better algorythem than any website does. And the less the website does the better the results. I say semi solution because they will still try to compress the image. But as you did most of it already. They do not have to do to much more.

Another reason is most web browers are not color managed. It simply shows a best guess. And doing so does not allways get it right.


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Jun 24, 2010 23:21 |  #13

Mark1 wrote in post #10422437 (external link)
The problem is not on your side. The problem is the compression that the websites use. Every tiny bit saved on each photo adds up fast whan you have millions of photos in your servers.

The save for web feature is a good semi solution. Photoshop has a much better algorythem than any website does. And the less the website does the better the results. I say semi solution because they will still try to compress the image. But as you did most of it already. They do not have to do to much more.

Another reason is most web browers are not color managed. It simply shows a best guess. And doing so does not allways get it right.

Very well said...+1


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Jul 03, 2010 06:38 |  #14

jrosephoto wrote in post #10402508 (external link)
To a certain extent. It will show only web colors, so you will get a better idea of how the image will look.

Not true for jpg. (which is what you should use for photos)

http://www.getcolorman​aged.com/color-management/saveforweb/ (external link)

rwong2k wrote in post #10410730 (external link)
I have the same problem and save for web resolves the issue, but how do I save an image to reflect the true colours of my monitor but with the exif information?

Save for web in PSCS4 can automatically convert to sRGB. My guess is that's the difference.

rwong2k wrote in post #10417075 (external link)
it's weird on my system

save as web the colours are fine, save as the colours are blank,
i made sure it's in RGB mode and i tried turning on and off the colour profile option in save as

And what color profile would that be in "Save as"?
If your default working space in PS is set to sRGB, that doesn't mean that any image you open is sRGB!

rwong2k wrote in post #10417075 (external link)
the reason I don't want to use save as web is because i wanted the exif information attached =(

Save for web can be set to retain all info.

czynot wrote in post #10401704 (external link)
All the setting is set to sRGB in my computer.

Sorry?

czynot wrote in post #10401704 (external link)
Do web gallery use different color management?

Web galleries don't. Your browser does.
Use Firefox3.6 and set it to full color management.

Mark1 wrote in post #10422437 (external link)
The problem is not on your side. The problem is the compression that the websites use. Every tiny bit saved on each photo adds up fast whan you have millions of photos in your servers.

That should not desaturate the image, unless they strip out the embedded .icc profile.

Mark1 wrote in post #10422437 (external link)
The save for web feature is a good semi solution. Photoshop has a much better algorythem than any website does. And the less the website does the better the results. I say semi solution because they will still try to compress the image. But as you did most of it already. They do not have to do to much more.

Again: That might affect the quality of the image, but not desaturate it.

Mark1 wrote in post #10422437 (external link)
Another reason is most web browers are not color managed.

Bingo.


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