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What lens(es) to choose for 5d mk2

 
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Jun 26, 2010 02:13 |  #16

jericho1405 wrote in post #10426688 (external link)
because they are here saucy expensive. :)

Saucy expensive?
*chuckles quietly to himself* :D

But in all seriousness, the 24-70 is a great lens and I love my copy. It produces wonderful bokeh and color reproduction and contrast are great as well. This is a great general purpose lens paired with the 5D mkII (speaking from my own expirience).
24-105 is also a great lens but I chose the 24-70 because of the bokeh and the f/2.8 aperture.


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Jun 26, 2010 02:36 |  #17

... begining of last year I bought a 5DMKII ... and I bought zooms 70-200F4 with a 50F1.4 then a 70-300DOIS and a 135L2.0 ...
I understood that speed and sharpness was very important for me, I didn't want to get exactly same pictures as other people .. and I moved little by little to primes and actually nearly reach my dream team 24L1.4II, 85L1.2II 135L2.0 300L2.8nonIS ... and I noticed that zoom sharpness, contrast, bokeh were so far from primes that I sold them all and I don't miss them at all...

My travel kit is actually 24L1.4II+85L1.2II+Zuik​o500F/8 ....it's working days and nights (I don't bring the zuiko in dark situations)
My sports kit (quadbike races, F1 races, Dog show or agility) is 300L2.8nonIS and 135L2.0 (I will try to bring 85L1.2II, AF seems to be sufficient).

My workhorse is after a few month use the 85L1.2II

.. to complete my dream team I would replace my 18years old 300L2.8nonIS with a recent 300L2.8IS or even better a 200L2.0IS ... (I should give a try to 70-200L2.8ISII ... but canon MFT Charts are not really same level as primes and F2.8 is quite slow for indoor or evening uses)


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Jun 26, 2010 08:54 as a reply to  @ newworld666's post |  #18

Thanks everybody for suggestions.

I haven't special "subject" of photography. But, it will be portraits, landscapes, and all-around "travel" photography. I'm not interested in macro and sport photography(but like fast lenses, for their bokeh and low light abilities).

For now, in plan i have 24-70 2.8f(like all-around glass), 17-40 f4 for landscapes and wide photography, and dream about 85 1.2f(how is 85 1.8f? Just "slower", i mean is IQ same on the same f level, because, there is very big spread between prices?), and 70-200 2.8(same question about this lens, and f4 version?).

Thanks, i'm still opened for suggestions.




  
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Jun 26, 2010 09:34 as a reply to  @ jericho1405's post |  #19

+ 1 on the kit lens. IS is useful.

Then move on to some specialty primes like 135L and thhe must have 35L.




  
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Jun 26, 2010 12:37 |  #20

I bet the full frame on the 5d mk2 would do a lot of justice to a wide angle lens. (since Ive only used 1.6x cameras, I haven't bothered to buy a wide angle lens since I wouldn't be getting my money's worth)


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Jun 26, 2010 12:48 |  #21

jericho1405 wrote in post #10429942 (external link)
Thanks everybody for suggestions.

I haven't special "subject" of photography. But, it will be portraits, landscapes, and all-around "travel" photography. I'm not interested in macro and sport photography(but like fast lenses, for their bokeh and low light abilities).

For now, in plan i have 24-70 2.8f(like all-around glass), 17-40 f4 for landscapes and wide photography, and dream about 85 1.2f(how is 85 1.8f? Just "slower", i mean is IQ same on the same f level, because, there is very big spread between prices?), and 70-200 2.8(same question about this lens, and f4 version?).

Thanks, i'm still opened for suggestions.

The 5D II is also available as kit with the 24-70L, certainly in Europe, so that is an option if you want to save some money. This is also 200 to 300 euros cheaper than buying body and lens separately.

IMO, the 85 F/1.8 is not the same IQ-wise as the 85L II, but there are many here who wouldn't agree with me :D. I had both, and the 85 F/1.8 did not get any use anymore after I got the 85L. And I stil don't miss it, and that is several years down the line now.

As to the 70-200s, the order of sharpness etc. now is:
1) shared 70-200 F/2.8L IS II and 70-200 F/4L IS
2) shared 70-200 F/2.8L and 70-200 F/4L
3) 70-200 F/2.8L IS
I don't know whether there really is all that much between them, however, when it comes to real life shooting. They all are excellent zoom lenses.

Personally I first had the F/4L and later the F/4L IS, but I sold the latter several months after acquiring the 135L, having an 1.4 extender already. I stopped using the 70-200 completely. It's now 9-10 months later, and I still don't miss it :D.

Zooms certainly are convenient, but overall L primes are second to none of these, IMO, when it comes to IQ.

Kind regards, Wim


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Jun 26, 2010 13:36 as a reply to  @ wimg's post |  #22

24-105L


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Jun 26, 2010 15:32 |  #23

wimg wrote in post #10430687 (external link)
The 5D II is also available as kit with the 24-70L, certainly in Europe, so that is an option if you want to save some money. This is also 200 to 300 euros cheaper than buying body and lens separately.

IMO, the 85 F/1.8 is not the same IQ-wise as the 85L II, but there are many here who wouldn't agree with me :D. I had both, and the 85 F/1.8 did not get any use anymore after I got the 85L. And I stil don't miss it, and that is several years down the line now.

As to the 70-200s, the order of sharpness etc. now is:
1) shared 70-200 F/2.8L IS II and 70-200 F/4L IS
2) shared 70-200 F/2.8L and 70-200 F/4L
3) 70-200 F/2.8L IS
I don't know whether there really is all that much between them, however, when it comes to real life shooting. They all are excellent zoom lenses.

Personally I first had the F/4L and later the F/4L IS, but I sold the latter several months after acquiring the 135L, having an 1.4 extender already. I stopped using the 70-200 completely. It's now 9-10 months later, and I still don't miss it :D.

Zooms certainly are convenient, but overall L primes are second to none of these, IMO, when it comes to IQ.

Kind regards, Wim

Thanks for detailed post. Thanks to others, too.




  
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Jun 26, 2010 15:36 |  #24

One thing more. I little read this forum about lenses, and i found info there are "more" versions of 24-70 f2.8 lenses. Like, "sharpen" and "not sharpen". :) What the hell people talking about? Is this true, and how i can check this(i mean, is there any serial number, date of production or is it just a random case?)




  
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Jun 26, 2010 16:44 |  #25

jericho1405 wrote in post #10431319 (external link)
One thing more. I little read this forum about lenses, and i found info there are "more" versions of 24-70 f2.8 lenses. Like, "sharpen" and "not sharpen". :) What the hell people talking about? Is this true, and how i can check this(i mean, is there any serial number, date of production or is it just a random case?)

Some are just better than others. It happens, it is a QA thing. I've tested 3, over a period of a few years, and they were all equally sharp. I owned one for a while, as a stop gap before receiving my 24L MK II and for reportage style shooting, but I never used it having fast primes in that same range, as the 24L MK II arrived only two days after I finally got one :D, and I found I preferred shooting with the primes, so I sold it on again.

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Jun 26, 2010 17:26 as a reply to  @ wimg's post |  #26

Hehe, seems like it's good choice to buy just primes. I right now have D90 with kit 18-105, and 50 f1.8f, and i can say this prime kick ass(price is funny, about 150$).

I just looked at 135 f2 topic, and i must admit it's such amazing lens! No one took bad photo with it. ;) So, now i'm totaly in dilema. :) It's problem because i can't shot wide photos if i choose that lens. But it's so adorable lens(for portraits etc). Maybe to buy this one, and try to tighten budget for one more(wide) lens? Or wait better times to buy one wide lens? :) Mhm, sweet worries. :D




  
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Jun 26, 2010 17:45 |  #27

Just to make things a lot harder for you. Might as well get the 50/2 ZE. Tested it and oh my....

Oh the 24L II is a gem!


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Jun 26, 2010 18:06 |  #28

jericho1405 wrote in post #10431731 (external link)
Hehe, seems like it's good choice to buy just primes. I right now have D90 with kit 18-105, and 50 f1.8f, and i can say this prime kick ass(price is funny, about 150$).

I just looked at 135 f2 topic, and i must admit it's such amazing lens! No one took bad photo with it. ;) So, now i'm totaly in dilema. :) It's problem because i can't shot wide photos if i choose that lens. But it's so adorable lens(for portraits etc). Maybe to buy this one, and try to tighten budget for one more(wide) lens? Or wait better times to buy one wide lens? :) Mhm, sweet worries. :D

To be very honest, if you get only one lens right now, with the 5D II, I would suggest either the 24-70L or the 24-105L as a standard zoom lens, either of which will be quite a bit better than your current 18-105.

The 50 F/1.8 on the D90 is more or less similar to the 85 F/1.8 on the 5D II, so if you like that AoV, I would for now go for that in addition.

If you are really sure you want to go primes, then the question arises which FL you like best, need most, and which quality you really like. If you want the best, there is either the 24L Mk II, or the 35L for WA. Do note that 18 mm on the D90 corresponds from an AoV POV with a 27 mm on FF, so 24 is wider, and 35 a little less wide than that. If you prefer, e.g., something around the 35 mm mark on the 18-105, I guess that means you would need to get a 50 mm for the 5D II, and that would mean the 50 F/1.4 or 50L I would think. You say you like the 50 F/1.8 on the D90, which would be similar to a 75 mm lens on the 5D II: the closest to that is the 85 F/1.8.
You could also consider the 100 F/2, or the 100 F/2.8 macro, either the older version, or the new 100 F/2.8L IS version. 100 mm on FF is the old "standard" portrait lens FL. It equates to approximately 65 mm on the D90.

The 135L on FF equates to approximately 90 mm on the D90, so that is something to take into account.

In short: what you really need most from the word go is what you should get first.

In all lens threads you'll find mostly only great pics. People will showcase their work there, and that means it is not only the lens, but their vision, and also the lighting and PP. Yes, good material helps, but it doesn't magically give one the ability to shoot great photographs from the word go. It often, if not always, takes a lot of time and practice.

So, honestly, do go for that what you need most first, at a quality you want, and take it from there, one step at a time.

Kind regards, Wim


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Jun 26, 2010 18:38 |  #29

jericho1405 wrote in post #10431731 (external link)
I just looked at 135 f2 topic, and i must admit it's such amazing lens! No one took bad photo with it. ;)

wimg wrote in post #10431891 (external link)
In all lens threads you'll find mostly only great pics. People will showcase their work there, and that means it is not only the lens, but their vision, and also the lighting and PP. Yes, good material helps, but it doesn't magically give one the ability to shoot great photographs from the word go. It often, if not always, takes a lot of time and practice.

what wimg said is very true ... it's not all the lens. in fact, most photographer's would actually take it as an insult when you see a picture and say that's a very good picture taken by the camera (instead of the photographer)

if you really want to save money, go look at the kit lens threads ... :) the pics there would trump my best any day.


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Jun 26, 2010 22:02 |  #30

jericho1405 wrote in post #10429942 (external link)
I haven't special "subject" of photography. But, it will be portraits, landscapes, and all-around "travel" photography. I'm not interested in macro and sport photography(but like fast lenses, for their bokeh and low light abilities).

Sounds like the 24-105L would be a good match for your needs, but for travel photography you might want an ultra-wide lens, and for portraits you might want something longer than 105mm. I'm coming from Nikon also picked up a 5DII, but started out with a 17-40L, 70-400/4L, and a 50/1.8II. These are all great lenses, and still light enough to be easy to take around with you on travel. I really like the 24-105L and will probably get one eventually but it's lower on the priority list. I think I'll probably pickup a used EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM to hold me over if I need a mid-range. I want to buy some more primes first before blowing it all on a 24-105L. Probably the 28/1.8, 100/2, and the 50/2.5 compact macro. :cool:


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