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Jul 11, 2011 15:24 |  #2011

I started shooting nightlife with film. Truth is, you're going to go through a lot of work just on the off chance a laser beam fries your sensor again.

A few things about that.

- No one's gonna probably call him on it, but he shouldn't be scanning the crowd for any appreciable length with the laser system. Like, a 1/10 second burst of the laser hitting your sensor shouldn't do any damage. It sounds like you kind of set up the shot and let the laser burn into the sensor.

- With that in mind, you could probably safely use your X100 in this environment. The whole lot of us here shoot in clubs with lasers all the time, and as far as I can see, no one is worse for the wear gear-wise. As long as the beam is off-axis of the sensor, and not bombarding it for a long time, you're fine.

- That being said, it is a proven risk to do video with a laser system in operation. There's concrete evidence of people getting their sensors messed up from a laser while doing video. Basically because your sensor heats up, then gets hit by a laser. It kind of makes sense. If you do video, watch the laser and try not to be where a beam hits.

- Basically I'm making an argument against the relative inconvenience of film. Plus, the expense will be pretty high for stock, processing, and digitizing. The cheap "Picture CD" won't cut it. You'll have to either find a film scanner, or go to a pro lab that still offers the service.

However, if you do shoot film, obviously prepare yourself for a few things.

- ISO 400 on film, especially drugstore film is going to be very grainy. Film stock development has largely stopped, so brace yourself for something that would be the equivalent of 1600-3200 ISO on a DSLR.

- If you're gonna do this film style, go to bhphotovideo.com or adorama.com and order something decent, like Fujicolor Press 400 or Kodak 400UC. Or if you shoot chromes, go Fuji Provia 400.

- After you're done, do yourself a favor and get the rolls to a pro lab for processing. Ask for a "clip test" from one roll. That way you can judge how the film looks before committing to a full development run. This is where shooting chromes comes in handy. You can see "easier" how things look. Then you can actually ask the lab to do push processing on the rest. Push processing is basically running the film as if it were a higher ISO. You can push chromes 1 stop, max. Negative film, a little bit more, maybe 2 if you're lucky.

Obviously you can do a lot of work in post, too, after scanning.

Here's some nightlife photos on Fujicolor Press 400.

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Bear in mind these images are over a decade old now, but you can see the noise/grain levels.

As for your question about haze/fog? No, not at all. I wouldn't do a lens swap in a fogged-out room, but your gear will be fine.

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Jul 11, 2011 15:57 |  #2012

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Lol I ran into them at a hotel in Chicago once, they ended up giving me a ride to work. We just got a Funktion One at the club I work at.........IT IS AWESOME!


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Jul 11, 2011 16:15 |  #2013

Thanks for the writeup pod_canon! The truth is, I'm not doing this for any professional purpose. I'm quite ok with the grain on cheap film and the minilab scans. It's mostly for fun and I just want to make the best of it. Sadly most attendees will only see these pictures on Facebook and won't bother to see a cleaner one on flickr. I'm also doing it for the novelty of doing it on film.

If I were to bring a digital, it would be my 5d or 350d. My 350D has never experienced this issue. If my gf hadn't adopted it has her main camera, I'd use it as the beater cam for just this purpose :P
I am not going to bring my x100 because it had several hits. Meaning it wasn't just an "off chance". Which makes sense because the sensor it exposed almost all the time, even in OVF mode.

Again, hopefully the lights will be set up a bit better than it was in his garage.




  
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Jul 11, 2011 16:30 |  #2014

No problem. I saw "film" and was like "This is something I know..."

A photo colleague of mine and I are thinking of shooting film one night just because. We're actually going to do it on an off-night since we don't want clients to depend on a "maybe".

I actually have a roll or two of infrared film...now that would be downright spooky in a club.

What I would actually do if you go the minilab scan route is just tell the operator not do to any adjustments. He'll provide you with JPEGs unfortunately, but if they're not adjusted, you can do your thing in post.


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Jul 11, 2011 18:11 as a reply to  @ pod_canon's post |  #2015

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Jul 11, 2011 18:59 |  #2016

Fur's a cool venue. I've been once or twice. The Glow gang is a great bunch, too.

The funny thing about your last shot is there's a laser in it, and it plays into the concerns of efm-7. For stills of lasers, you can shoot off the beam axis, get a great shot, and your gear is fine. There's your proof.


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Jul 11, 2011 23:13 |  #2017

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noted! imma try this weekend coming up and will post...i appreciate your time!

flash attatch directly to hot shoe works perfect with me, i have ettl core to use flash off hotshoe, but after 10-20 pics your gonna feel tired! i only use it in the dance floor or place you cant bounce flash.

i shoot mainly 17-25mm range for most photo, 50mm is way to long on crop sensor!

by no mean im a good photographer but here is example shots.

this is with flash on camera, tilt 45 degrees with cheap omni cap on


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this is bounce off ceiling with bare flash, no omni

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this is crappy pic just show you off shoe flash:

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Jul 11, 2011 23:56 as a reply to  @ Chunky515's post |  #2018

Some shots from EDC

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Jul 11, 2011 23:57 as a reply to  @ j2photo's post |  #2019

some more...

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Jul 12, 2011 00:02 as a reply to  @ j2photo's post |  #2020

and..some more. last 5 are not from edc.

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Jul 12, 2011 00:22 |  #2021

what is edc i...muuust...go


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Jul 12, 2011 01:07 |  #2022

Electric Daisy Carnival. It's a huge annual event. Never been, but always wanted to go. Same with UMF.


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Jul 12, 2011 01:49 |  #2023

EDC is a huge festival that recently became a traveling roadshow here in the US. This year (2011) they did Orlando, Dallas, Las Vegas, and up next is Puerto Rico actually. I went to the Vegas one in an unofficial capacity. The investor in my web development firm had a VIP area for his other company that no one took advantage of, so he offered it to our sales guy and me. I was so swamped I forgot to arrange press credentials until the last minute, so I really didn't have a coherent shooting plan. I kind of just wandered around and took it all in. Plus I had just gotten my MK II a few weeks prior and was getting used to the video capability so it was a big "Test" for me. I wasn't paid to be there so I really just did "f--k all" as the English say (we had 2 legendary English DJs in our crew) and checked it out from a gonzo perspective. Oddly enough I made a few bucks on the backend since a friend of mine did the production for the Bass Pod and he wanted some images and video of his setup.


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Jul 12, 2011 03:59 as a reply to  @ pod_canon's post |  #2024

Yep, what they said. Those shots are from Vegas. The last EDC I went to was back in 07'. Thing's have definitely changed.

If anyone could help, I need some advice on something I previously posted a few pages back.

I've been shooting with a 580exii on-camera for the last year and I'm looking to start shooting with one on camera and one off.

I'm not quite sure on the right way to go about this. Definitely going to have my 580 for the main off camera, but I want to keep it pretty cheap for the fill on camera. I'll go as cheap as I can find as long as it has a good Auto Focus Assist Beam on the flash.

I was looking into buying this transmitter/receiver kit: http://www.gadgetinfin​ity.com/produc...roduc​tid=17567 (external link)

And maybe this cheap flash for the fill oncamera: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com/c/produc...gital​_SLR.html (external link)

Would anyone recommend any other flash with a good AF Assist? Or anything else for that matter.


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Jul 12, 2011 08:42 |  #2025

pod_canon wrote in post #12743765 (external link)
I wasn't paid to be there so I really just did "f--k all" as the English say (we had 2 legendary English DJs in our crew)

Good to see an American using the English language properly ;)

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I've been shooting with a 580exii on-camera for the last year and I'm looking to start shooting with one on camera and one off.

When I run with two flash guns I use the 580 on camera and a 430 off camera. I use ettl so the 580 acts as a master and I can change the light ratios very easily by just spinning the dial.


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