night club photos (NWS) (2)

GCWB wrote in post #13869750
Final Note
My only theories are that I'm exposing for too much ambient, but it seems to be only with that specific light. I have authorisation to talk with the lighting staff and sort out a solution. May I note that this is in maybe 1/20 of the pictures I produce, usually when that purple light is directly hitting the subjects. It's not a huge problem, but it's one which I have no answer for.

Thanks!

I have "similar" problems in the club I work at, whenever my problematic lights are on I just set the photo's to B&W, add quite some shutter speed and done, no more light problems, plus some variation of color & b&w photos in the set.

Another thing I sometimes do is wait (few instants) until the light continues rotating away from the subject...
an example of the result (putting the camera as high as I can above my head and pointing down) is

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Ockie wrote in post #13869822
I have "similar" problems in the club I work at, whenever my problematic lights are on I just set the photo's to B&W, add quite some shutter speed and done, no more light problems, plus some variation of color & b&w photos in the set.

Another thing I sometimes do is wait (few instants) until the light continues rotating away from the subject...
an example of the result (putting the camera as high as I can above my head and pointing down) is

forget about the expression of some of the subjects...

I've realised that as a solution, I think I'm worried about consistency with my employer. If they browse all my pictures, I'd rather not random pictures being suddenly black and white.

The thing is, B&W wouldn't solve it 100% of the time, the light actually sabotages the subject. It makes it seem like some kind of skin rash, I've just stumbled on 2 more with different colour light. It MUST be my settings... I'm going to experiment tonight, see if I can find out what the problem is, but if anyone can put in their two-cent on a solution.

I'm new to this game, so feel free to blunt. I get the feeling it's my ISO, but an ISO of 640 shouldn't compromise the subjects that significantly should it? I see people regularly use 800?
note: Again, these images are pretty appalling. I know this, but the colour is what is important.

GCWB wrote in post #13869750
Example
This picture is an example picture, it's a pretty awful image, the framing is off, there's too much zoom, but the colour is what I'm worried about. The picture is way below my standard, and I'm just using it as an example! (Just saying, don't want my first post on this forum to be one which will define my skill set forever haha)

I've had this happen before. What's happening here, is the color in that frequency range is "clipping". Basically, it's hitting the wall of what the sensor can handle and your camera has no idea how to interpret it. Clipping is also present in the audio world, when a signal clips, it distorts.

This seems to be a big issue with light sources with a strong intensity in one color, especially newer LED luminaires.

How do I fix it?

Well, to be honest, about ten percent of the time it's not recoverable.

But for the other ninety percent? This assumes you are shooting RAW. If you are shooting JPEG I don't know.

In Lightroom or Adobe Camera RAW, you need to do a combination of bringing back the "Vibrance" slider a bit, and also pushing up the "Recovery" slider. Note, the Recovery slider will introduce a new color cast to your photo on occasion. This will lead to the detail being visible in your image again in that clipped spot.

Failing that, desaturate only in that color band.

Failing that, bring your exposure down a bit, use the Fill Light function to compensate for underexposing (I know it doesn't make sense, but it's worked for me...)

I don't have a "before" of this one, but this fine Muscovite was bluer than someone who was tossed in the Neva River in January. With these techniques I recovered a fair amount of detail. For reference she was lit purely by an LED fixture only with it's blue elements on.

pod_canon wrote in post #13870759
I've had this happen before. What's happening here, is the color in that frequency range is "clipping". Basically, it's hitting the wall of what the sensor can handle and your camera has no idea how to interpret it. Clipping is also present in the audio world, when a signal clips, it distorts.

This seems to be a big issue with light sources with a strong intensity in one color, especially newer LED luminaires.

How do I fix it?

Well, to be honest, about ten percent of the time it's not recoverable.

But for the other ninety percent? This assumes you are shooting RAW. If you are shooting JPEG I don't know.

In Lightroom or Adobe Camera RAW, you need to do a combination of bringing back the "Vibrance" slider a bit, and also pushing up the "Recovery" slider. Note, the Recovery slider will introduce a new color cast to your photo on occasion. This will lead to the detail being visible in your image again in that clipped spot.

Failing that, desaturate only in that color band.

Failing that, bring your exposure down a bit, use the Fill Light function to compensate for underexposing (I know it doesn't make sense, but it's worked for me...)

Wow thanks! I'll get on trying those, B&W works nearly perfectly for now.
Lightroom is my poison, so I'll get on experimenting.

Is there anything I can do to help my camera cope with such lighting, such as specific settings? Or is it just not going to happen...

so it looks like I may be starting a 2-night weekly gig here.... kinda excited about it!

^ Ooooh sh!t its about to go down! ...... some stuff... A-Trak/Alesso/abandoned veuve, feel sorta blah about them.

Ok so new guy here. Only into my first year doing photography and started doing nightclubs about that time. Ive been looking at this forum for about 6 months and kept putting off uploading. So now I'm here sharing some work...

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GCWB wrote in post #13871801
Wow thanks! I'll get on trying those, B&W works nearly perfectly for now.
Lightroom is my poison, so I'll get on experimenting.

Is there anything I can do to help my camera cope with such lighting, such as specific settings? Or is it just not going to happen...

If you are shooting pure ambient light, you can underexpose a bit, and that will help somewhat.

From the Cedric Gervais video shoot this weekend. The guys on the ends are the producers of the video that was shot for "Molly", the guy with the scarf is a buddy of mine, Drew, who shot the three other guys for the cover of Shy magazine. I shot this pic for Drew with his camera. I took about 1000 behind the scenes pictures over the course of the Saturday-Monday morning shoot. I have a lot to go through but will post some up when I'm done.