What is your preference for framing shots?

People often talk about certain focal lengths being "too long" to use indoors. Sometimes this seems pretty legitimate, for instance a 135 on a crop, or a 200 on full frame. But you hear it from some members anytime the 50mm focal length is mentioned. "50mm is a little long on crop" or something to that extent.

This got me wondering what most shooters see when they are filling their frames. Do you shoot most people head to toe? cropped at the knees or waist? In landscape orientation with a lot of environment included?

Or do you not shoot people at all, and just appreciate including more into the frame as opposed to subject isolation?

Obviously there are many professional applications where the type of framing is dictated by the needs of the client, but when you are just shooting for yourself, what is your preference?

I don't limit myself to one specific framing or focal length. Photography would not be fun for me that way.

for me... i usually keep in the frame ALL or HALF.
Waste & up or head to toe..... BUT as for waste & up, only with rule of thirds unless i have something else in mind as a subject.
cutting out knee for me... makes everything look so awkward.
I must agree... everything looks same that way but... thats just me though.

I don't think people say it with specific framing in mind, they say it on the basis that you've less choice in a smaller environment with a smaller field of view.
For example you might be fine taking head and shoulders shots of people - but if you happen to notice something against your usual shooting such as some people dancing together then you need the room to back up and get more of them in. If the room isn't available or backing up that much will mean something/someone blocks your shot then you've lost the opportunity to take a photo you want to take which can be quite frustrating.

You can walk towards things as close as your minimum focus distance but you can only back off things so much as the confines of a room or the people and objects within it allow.

I certainly don't mean that everyone has one mechanical way that they take photos and that never changes. But people certainly have innate behaviors that are developed over time and those behaviors shape our technical needs in many ways. I've read over and over that "__mm is a little long indoors" but it's always a very opaque statement. Obviously people are framing things at those lengths in certain ways that lead to these feelings and restrictions. I'm suggesting that we explore those habits to shed light on WHY 50mm might be too long indoors on a crop camera.

For instance, I overfill the frame very often. I take lots of shots at 100 or 200mm near the MFD of my lenses. It's a stylistic choice that I have made since I started shooting and looking at my photos I can see how I developed that over time (I store my files chronologically). Now, I certainly don't shoot sports or landscapes at the MFD and consequently don't frame things the same way in those circumstances. But when I'm "in the zone" so to speak and shooting for fun I have certain framing habits that unconsciously affect the style of my photography. Consequently, there are not many focal lengths that I would think are "too long" for just about any situation. Certain obvious exceptions apply.

DazJW wrote in post #10448210
I don't think people say it with specific framing in mind, they say it on the basis that you've less choice in a smaller environment with a smaller field of view.
For example you'd be fine taking head and shoulders shots of people, but if you happen to notice some people dancing together and you think it would make a good photo you need the room to back up and get more of them in. If the room isn't available or backing up that much will mean something/someone blocks your shot then you've lost the opportunity to take a photo you want to take which can be quite frustrating.

You can walk towards things as close as your minimum focus distance but you can only back off things so much as the confines of a room or the people and objects within it allow.

It makes sense, and there's that "what if" paranoia of people that causes them to lead with a warning. However, you never hear "Be careful with 24 or 35mm...it's a little short for large rooms."

Perhaps I made a mistake in basing my question on such a specific instance as it may cause the conversation to miss my intended mark. I really meant it to be more of a "how do you like to do what you do?" instead of "what do you do?"

I use 135L indoors, even on a crop, works for me! But for some things I need the 11-16mm.