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Jul 02, 2010 13:00 |  #1

Hey,

I was wondering is there any other way than using photoshop to resize images with minimal quality loss. Im asking because the quality that the photoshop resizing gives for me doesn't satisfy me at all and after making pictures 800x533 it looks like s*** :confused: or am I doing something wrong?

Sorry, if there was any kind of thread, im just cant find any related to it.

NOTICE: im not asking how to resize images (THE PROCESS) i am asking is there any possibility to resize them with minimal or less quality loss than in photoshop.

Thanks in advance

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Jul 02, 2010 13:09 |  #2

tomasado wrote in post #10467179 (external link)
Hey,

I was wondering is there any other way than using photoshop to resize images with minimal quality loss. Im asking because the quality that the photoshop resizing gives for me doesn't satisfy me at all and after making pictures 800x533 it looks like s*** :confused: or am I doing something wrong?

Sorry, if there was any kind of thread, im just cant find any related to it.

NOTICE: im not asking how to resize images (THE PROCESS) i am asking is there any possibility to resize them with minimal or less quality loss than in photoshop.

Thanks in advance

P.S. im mac user

What image quality issues are you seeing? Are you going from big to smaller or small to bigger? Which re-sampling options are you using (for example, bicubic)? Are you viewing the re-sized image in Photoshop or after you save as a JPEG? If viewing the re-sized image as a JPEG file are you using the highest quality JPEG settings when saving?


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Jul 02, 2010 13:40 |  #3

tomasado wrote in post #10467179 (external link)
Hey,

I was wondering is there any other way than using photoshop to resize images with minimal quality loss. Im asking because the quality that the photoshop resizing gives for me doesn't satisfy me at all and after making pictures 800x533 it looks like s*** :confused: or am I doing something wrong?

Sorry, if there was any kind of thread, im just cant find any related to it.

NOTICE: im not asking how to resize images (THE PROCESS) i am asking is there any possibility to resize them with minimal or less quality loss than in photoshop.

Thanks in advance

P.S. im mac user

With CS5?

Size photos with the following options check-marked in the Image Screen:
a. Constrain Proportions
b. Resample Image: Bicubic (best for smooth gradients)


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Jul 02, 2010 14:15 |  #4

I'd like to add one question:

stsva wrote in post #10467236 (external link)
Are you viewing the re-sized image in Photoshop or after you save as a JPEG?

How big are you viewing the resized image?

The very definition of downsizing = throwing out info = quality loss.


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Jul 02, 2010 14:50 |  #5

tomasado wrote in post #10467179 (external link)
Hey,

I was wondering is there any other way than using photoshop to resize images with minimal quality loss. Im asking because the quality that the photoshop resizing gives for me doesn't satisfy me at all and after making pictures 800x533 it looks like s*** :confused: or am I doing something wrong?

Are you sharpening after resizing? It's necessary - throwing away 3/4 of your pixels means fuzzy edges that need to be resharpened.

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Jul 02, 2010 18:23 |  #6

So resharpen after you downsize? Ive never tried this before....


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Jul 02, 2010 18:30 |  #7

try IRFanView, its free and for webloads specially here, its pretty good


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Jul 02, 2010 18:42 |  #8

Combatmedic870 wrote in post #10468677 (external link)
So resharpen after you downsize? Ive never tried this before....

i usually Filter>Sharpen>Sharpen then Edit>Fade Sharpen>60 % to save it looking over sharpened.. YMMV


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Jul 02, 2010 18:56 |  #9

Combatmedic870 wrote in post #10468677 (external link)
So resharpen after you downsize? Ive never tried this before....

Yep. Always my final step before saving.

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Jul 03, 2010 03:28 |  #10

number six wrote in post #10467721 (external link)
Are you sharpening after resizing? It's necessary - throwing away 3/4 of your pixels means fuzzy edges that need to be resharpened.

-js

Agree. Try using something like Amount 30%, Radius 1.2 & 0 Threshold. Someone here told me those setting years back and I find them a good starting point for 800x535 web images.

I'd also stay away from "Save for web" and use "Save as" then add a tag to the image name like "web". Brilliant, I know. ;) :lol:


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Jul 03, 2010 05:42 |  #11

Alternative to sharpening (the quick and dirty way): Use Bicubic sharper.

Another option: Use the Manyk SRS action.

You can find that action Here (external link).
There's also an example: One image with these 4 different ways of downsizing :)


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Jul 03, 2010 06:58 |  #12

Pictures resized in Thumbs Plus, then sharpened.

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Thumbs Plus (external link) is a good database and editing program. If your images come out of the camera in good shape, and if you need to handle images in batches, it's a good choice -- and has been a good choice for more than a dozen years. In its latest version, it happens to offer several sharpening filters.



  
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Jul 04, 2010 12:20 |  #13

Not fair! You obviously have a very good cam- lens setup, and perfectly focused shots to start with.
Makes me feel hopeless:) But thanks for the advice. Are you saying that Thumbs Plus should do a better job than CS4? If so, I may give it a try.
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Jul 04, 2010 12:43 |  #14

trailguy wrote in post #10475946 (external link)
Not fair! You obviously have a very good cam- lens setup, and perfectly focused shots to start with.
Makes me feel hopeless:) But thanks for the advice. Are you saying that Thumbs Plus should do a better job than CS4? If so, I may give it a try.
Thanks

I'd say it's more that different approaches may appeal to different people. You can get excellent output from CS4, you just find a technique that works for you. Many people just run a quick sharpening routine on an image after resizing it for the Web. If you are bothered about a lack of detailed sharpness, try that. If it's another aspect of the image quality, such as a lack of a "contrasty look", then another approach can address that.


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Jul 04, 2010 13:05 |  #15

If you downsize, don't resample. In PS uncheck resample and when you change the size you won't see any change in the onscreen image, but the PPI will increase.


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