Echo63 wrote in post #10491434
i will get to this event one day
Monster's Suzuki is my favorite, but i love the view in #6 too.
Love the username too - Left 5 into Right 5 over crest
This was the last year (barring unforseeable circumstances) for any dirt above tree line.
They have been paving for some years and the last mile to two miles above treeline that were dirt will now be paved leaving just a two miles or so stretch below treeline.
jon.s wrote in post #10491501
Love #1&3 nice stuff!
How difficult is it photograph this event? you mentioned something with the organisers, Always fancied it!
The event is very easy and very difficult to shoot.
Practice week is a huge grind at 12,000 feet plus above sea level. The cars start running at 5 am, meaning as a shooter you have to be on the mountain around 4 am, practice ends then around 9 am. The physical toll is noticable on the body between the weird hours and the altitude it can kick your butt.
The problem with the organizers is that some years ago a competitor sold a complete run worth of incar to a video game developer. Ever since then the organizers have been trying to make money off of the photographers and videographers that work the mountain. They try to force out a very draconian image use policy where the event controls everything 100%. They also want 20% of any revenue generated, so if you sell $200.00 worth of prints to participants, the organizers expect you to pay them $40.00 for the priveledge of being able to have shot the participants in their event.
A couple of years ago I sold an image to Volkswagen when they were the title sponsor. It was a nice sale but no walk off home run kind of deal. I got a letter from their lawyer wanting their fee. As part of the title sponsorship VW had permission to utilize the events name, likeness, or images in their own participation of their involvement (they paid thousands to put their name on it, they get to use it). Once I pointed this out the lawyer crawled back into the respective hole, had I not been as well informed of the situation I likely would have shelled out 20% of my commission and that would have been uncool.
This is in addition to the fact that over the years the organizers have re sold and re-liscensed images to teams, sponsors, and anyone they damn well please from their photographers outside of the scope of the working agreement without compensation (single end user, editorial distribution and use only kind of agreements). Nothing like opening up a magazine and seeing a full page ad with one of your images being used by a client you didn't authorize or receive compensation for.
The organization is a joke at this point. It is all misguided money grabbing and mis-management for an event that is on the brink of obscurity.
The beautiful thing however is that on practice days you simply pay the Pikes Peak Highway toll road fees to be on the mountain. You can park anywhere that is safe and as long as you stay out of the road for the main part, and do not try to move your car, you can freely move about the mountain. There is no image use form or other terms and conditions for them to try to utilize.
The other thing you have to factor in here, is that unless you live in Co Springs shooting PPIHC is a $500-$1,000.00 proposition. You will get no support, guidance, or value from the organization other than a ride on a shuttle to the summit on race day. As a credentialed member of the media you will not receive a media guide on the competitors, you will not receive a media guide on the event, you will not receive a content generation guide for best locations to work from, you will however be on their radar and acknowledge their money grab.
I love this event (been going to it and then shooting it ever since I could drive my self down from Denver, CO) but I have no love lost for the organizers of said event, that is for sure.