REVIEW: The Lowepro SlingShot 300 AW>>>>

Ever hear about cut-and-paste.

nitehawk55 wrote in post #10502129
Geez , give it a rest will you !
You're the only one on here that seems to have a problem with this post .

Because I am the only one with my opinion, I shouldn't utter it?

Remind me to visit Ontario. Seems like an interesting place.

bohdank wrote in post #10504620
A slingbag is a contradiction. It's designed to be able to get to your camera and lenses without putting the bag down. The design is such that it makes it impossible to do so safely.

I had a Fastpack 200, a Slingbag with 2 shoulder straps. Uncomfortable, and had to put the bag on the ground to swap lenses.

Also not very well padded for the bumps it is going to take.

I'm glad I got rid of it and went to a shoulder bag. I have 2. The Lowepro ProMag2, when I want to bring more of my gear and added, recently, a Crumpler 6MDH which is perfect for when all I need is 3 lenses with me, which is most of the time. The Crumpler holds more camera/lenses then the Fastpack did and is actually more comfortable and certainly far safer when changing lenses and not having to put the bag down. It's also considerably smaller.

Personally I would never recommend a sling type bag to anyone, for any reason. Get a shoulder bag or a backpack.

No kidding. RIght on. I am not a sling bag fan at all.

j.

Jonta wrote in post #10511629
Because I am the only one with my opinion, I shouldn't utter it?

Remidn me to visit Ontario. Seems like an interesting place.

There's a right way and a wrong way to express one's opinion. The reaction you're seeing isn't there because you picked the right way....

Jonta wrote in post #10511629
Remidn me to visit Ontario. Seems like an interesting place.

Either you don't have a grasp on how to use english or this is a THREAT that you want to come to Ontario to confront me ?
You have an issue with how you communicate and you had better start making yourself understood clearly or you may find yourself in trouble .

But by all means please come to Ontario for a visit , lots of things to see and do as well as photograph .
Google JTF2 for more info

Daytona wrote in post #10517854
There's a right way and a wrong way to express one's opinion. The reaction you're seeing isn't there because you picked the right way....

Well, what would be the "right way" to tell you these things then?

nitehawk55 wrote in post #10518982
Either you don't have a grasp on how to use english or this is a THREAT that you want to come to Ontario to confront me ?

Nope. It was a reference to my previous sentence in the same post. "You seem to say something along the lines of "don't utter your opinion if you're the only one who has them", this is probably because you are in Ontario. Seems like a weird place emptied of free speech"

Now that sounded more like a threat. How am I not clear in what I write? I just skip all the tedious "It's great that you take the time to write a review of a camerabag to help others, but there are some things I'd change if I were you; You might want to", which just takes time to write and read, and doesn't help anyone.

So no, I don't really see where I was unclear

Jonta wrote in post #10519211
.....which just takes time to write and read, and doesn't help anyone.

I think all evidence points to the contrary. Many, many people like to be rude online, and this seemed to be your objective. And based on how you expressed your original comments, I completely dismissed what you had to see as having no value whatsoever.

So if you have neither the time nor the inclination to present your point of view in a non-abrasive manner, then just don't post your point of view.

Daytona wrote in post #10519964
I think all evidence points to the contrary. Many, many people like to be rude online, and this seemed to be your objective.

I cannot fathom as to how you reached this conclusion, but so be it. (Giving my thoughts can't have been the objective can it? I mean; they didn't congrue with any of the others!)

Sounds an awful lot as if you'll stubbornly ignore my views, just because I didn't sugarcoat them and fluff them up for you, so as to avoid hurting your feelings.

The points:
1: This isn't personal.
2: You want people to visit your website, read your writings, and click the ads there. If your reviews are as unhelpful as this one, you won't succeed at this.

Jonta wrote in post #10523382
)Sounds an awful lot as if you'll stubbornly ignore my views, just because I didn't sugarcoat them and fluff them up for you, so as to avoid hurting your feelings.

No one saying you have to sugar coat anything. But there is a basic level of tact, decorum, and civility which is completely absent from your original response. It's not uncommon...many people enjoy "saying anything" from the safety and anonymity of their computers. And many people enjoy trying to make themselves "look good" at the expense of others. You would seem to be one of those personalities types.

No one said it is. But it also seems less about being helpful and more about "showing off" online as to cutting you can be at someone else's expense. That's not particularly helpful...if that was your goal....which doesn't seem likely.

My goal isn't to to be everything to everyone. I'm very successful at what I do, because I write to a particular audience. Your conclusion is understandable because you lack the capacity to accept that there are other points of view than your own - MANY people find my articles to be of value. Some don't. This will always be the case.

Daytona wrote in post #10526395
No one saying you have to sugar coat anything. But there is a basic level of tact, decorum, and civility which is completely absent from your original response. It's not uncommon...many people enjoy "saying anything" from the safety and anonymity of their computers. And many people enjoy trying to make themselves "look good" at the expense of others. You would seem to be one of those personalities types.

A lot of what you say is true, but does not apply to me.

Let's go through the original post, which seems to be the one where you find the most objectionable things. Remember that you asked for thoughts, and that this is pretty much exactly what I put down in writing. This quite like a usability report; you get to know what goes through my mind, as I read it. Here they are in bullettpoints with explanation after each

1: Bumping after only 13 hours is a bit impatient
- Well, in my opinion, it is. I don't see this as impolite, especially as it say "a bit impatient"

2: Why 300 instead of 302? (Yes, I can see the explanation about price in the review, but people will still wonder)
- A question I ask myself as a user. I know that the 302's out, and can therefore imagine the 300 to be pretty much dated. As there is no explanation in the beginning (i.e.: "I know that the 302's already out, but it only differs in yadiyadiyadi, and the basics remain the same. I got this at a great price")

3: Your links don't look like links
- They didn't at that time. I might've been mistaken. Again; not impolite, just stating a fact.

4: I can't highlight the text while reading (Yes, a lot of people do this)
- Also, a statement of fact. Still don't know why you did this though. Are you afraid others will steal your work?

5: Are you implying I read your 102-review first? Who's got time for that?
- Another thought from the user. The user shouldn't have to read a different review first. They want to know about the 300AW. Now.

6: Before the third picture, everything is pretty much "It's awesome and has these features!", which is no more information than what Lowepro gives us.
- Roughly speaking, I want a review to tell me how (well/bad) a product works in the field. Not what the features are, but how they work for a real person.

7: How do you switch between cameras? Is the 7D in the bag with the 5DII on a neck strap or similar?
- Again, one of those questions I asked myself while reading. I can imagine this wasn't explained well enough.

8: I feel that the 302 and the 300 differ in more ways than the one you told us.
- Also a statement of fact; I find it suspicious that the tripod-holder is the only difference, and I read something of the sort somewhere else.

9: Not a single negative thing to say about it? Oh come on! No bag is perfect!
- Expressing my doubt that you are perfectly happy with it. There are downsides to everything, and I can't trust your review if it doesn't state them.

10: No ending with summary, pros, cons, recommended for, not recommended for?
- Final thought/question about why this isn't here, seeing as it's hella useful as a summary/bottomline.

Well, I am at least glad you do not find it likely that it was my goal.

Showing off, in the manner of critizising others is not my intention at all. Anyone can be critizised to be made look bad. I didn't critizise you either, merely the article. (It's not personal, like you already quoted).

Showing off would be more along the lines of linking to my own review of the 300AW, if I had one, and gloating about how yours sucked in comparison to mine

I am fully aware that one can't be everything to everyone. But you did ask the opinion of quite a large crowd.

OK, until now, you were quite sensible, but this is going too far, and I sincerely hope you take it back. Making such a surefire claim about my abilities. Completely baseless it seems as well. Please show me where I've stated something that makes it look like I "lack the capacity to accept that there are other points of view than [my] own"

Answered above.

Feel free to inquire further if there are still things that are unclear to you.

How about we be done with this now?

j.

Jonta >>> Daytona

I think this statement pretty well sums it up:

Jonta wrote in post #10526999
A lot of what you say is true, but does not apply to me.

I'm not going to go point by point refuting everything you say - you seem to lack the objectivity to accept anything I'm pointing out. This single point will suffice:

The statement, in and of itself, is rude. Plain and simple. Not just a bit rude either. You may disagree, but the fact remains, the statement adds no value whatsoever. I can accept you didn't find the review particularly interesting or helpful. Fine. But of what benefit is this statement about the article? None. Much like the rest of your commentary, which I largely dismissed based on your lack of socially acceptable communication skills.

I wouldn't bother Daytona , just move on .

BTW , I did exchance the sling 300 for a flipside 400 . The 300 sling was OK but just wouldn't carry the gear I wanted .

I see you are into good watches , I had a heck of a collection about 12 years ago I sold off . One of my best finds was a 1/4 century Prince 16J mvt from a local jewelers scrap box for $25 . He had scrapped the gold case and tossed the Mvt which was clean as was the dial with some nice patina . All it needed was a new balance staff . That's something you don't find everyday

nitehawk55 wrote in post #10536150
I wouldn't bother Daytona , just move on .

BTW , I did exchance the sling 300 for a flipside 400 . The 300 sling was OK but just wouldn't carry the gear I wanted .

Interesting. Can you elaborate on the specific problems you experienced which the flipside remedied?

I see you are into good watches , I had a heck of a collection about 12 years ago I sold off . One of my best finds was a 1/4 century Prince 16J mvt from a local jewelers scrap box for $25 . He had scrapped the gold case and tossed the Mvt which was clean as was the dial with some nice patina . All it needed was a new balance staff . That's something you don't find everyday

Wow...heckuva find!