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Jul 13, 2010 11:06 |  #1

Hello all. I recently bought the RRS BH-40 after much deliberation. I figured it fit the bill as I'll mostly be using a 180 macro and my 17-55mm lens on it. Got it yesterday and when I set it all up to take some test shots, I was a bit disappointed by the camera moving slightly even after I locked it in place. One of the main reasons I bought this brand is because they're supposed to be sturdy and rock solid when they are locked in place. With the type of photography I'm going to be using this for, I really want the camera to stay exactly where I want it. It moves about 1/8" or so which to me, especially for a head priced at nearly $400, unacceptable. I have the tripod column locked tight, and the main lock T lever tight. The Pan Lock knob and the Drag Set knob were pretty tight too. Any suggestions, or has anyone else experienced this problem? Or should I just try to get in touch with RRS or send it back? I don't want to use it too much in case I want to return it.


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Jul 13, 2010 11:27 |  #2

regardless of what anyone here might say....always get back to the vendor. I have had positive experiences with RRS. Give them the opportunity to correct the situation.




  
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Jul 13, 2010 19:13 |  #3

ngannet wrote in post #10527823 (external link)
Hello all. I recently bought the RRS BH-40 after much deliberation. I figured it fit the bill as I'll mostly be using a 180 macro and my 17-55mm lens on it. Got it yesterday and when I set it all up to take some test shots, I was a bit disappointed by the camera moving slightly even after I locked it in place. One of the main reasons I bought this brand is because they're supposed to be sturdy and rock solid when they are locked in place. With the type of photography I'm going to be using this for, I really want the camera to stay exactly where I want it. It moves about 1/8" or so which to me, especially for a head priced at nearly $400, unacceptable. I have the tripod column locked tight, and the main lock T lever tight. The Pan Lock knob and the Drag Set knob were pretty tight too. Any suggestions, or has anyone else experienced this problem? Or should I just try to get in touch with RRS or send it back? I don't want to use it too much in case I want to return it.

There have been issues with the BH40 where it can hitch a tad when the lock is applied. I had this on one of the ones I used. It was tiny and only noticeable at 200mm or longer.

Good advice is to call RRS and see what they say. Good company, they should be able to help you out.

I can also tell you that I have never had an issue like this with the Markins heads I own. I suspect the RRS issue is a tolerance issue that arises in the locking mechanism they use. If it isn't quite right, the head/ball can be moved a tiny amount.

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Jul 13, 2010 20:01 |  #4

Arghh this is not good news, thanks for your feedback. Without hijacking this thread, I was choosing the BH40 as my options, and contemplating on the fat BH55 as per your concerns below.

Do let us know how you go with them direct. I believe they are cool to deal with

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Jul 14, 2010 06:14 as a reply to  @ mrCAMPO's post |  #5

Markins heads don't droop provided the head is NOT locked down but used as recommended in the "sweet spot" mode. However, if locked down, my M10 does droop a little.

Have you tried the BH-40 like that? I admit I've never used one, but before sending it back it's got to be worth a shot.


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Jul 14, 2010 06:23 as a reply to  @ Lowner's post |  #6

I have the BH-40 (bought 2 years ago) and it is rock solid. No movement at all on my Gitzo CF tripod. Are you sure it is the head that is moving, and not a leg or other tripod component? Also, curious, what equipment were you using when the movement occurred?

As others have said, RRS is a good company and they will work with you to resolve the issue.


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Jul 14, 2010 06:23 |  #7

When I went looking to replace a 488RC2, because of the aggravating droop, I researched heads to death, as I am accustomed to doing when buying just about anything.

I decided on Markins because of reports like your. I am happy to say that I made the right decision.

Richard.... "sweet spot" mode ?


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Jul 14, 2010 06:32 |  #8

Bohdan,

Basically using them as per Markins own instructions, as I'm sure you do. With the little finger tip knob adjusted so that the camera/lens will move on demand, but stays put when let go without having to tighten anything. Used like that I see no droop whatsoever.


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Jul 14, 2010 06:35 |  #9

Ah, ok... that's what I do.


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Jul 14, 2010 06:48 |  #10

My BH-40 is only three weeks old but, I have been putting to vigorous use and I haven't noticed any issues.

What body?
Battery grip?
What was the angle when you noticed this problem?
I'll see if I can duplicate the issue on my setup.


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Jul 14, 2010 21:04 |  #11

Well, I have a 40D mounted to the L bracket by RRS, on the B2-40 LR quick release clamp. No battery grip. The angle is about a 45 degree angle I guess, but I notice it even when it's pointing straight ahead. Thanks all for your comments/suggestions, etc.


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Jul 15, 2010 18:54 |  #12

It's going to matter what lens you have on it. The longer the focal length, the more noticeable it will be (higher magnification).

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Jul 15, 2010 19:39 |  #13

Ok, I tested my RRS BH-40 with the following gear.

5D Mark II with battery grip with L plate
17-40L

I angled the ball head in several different positions and it didn't sag at all. (each position, i left it there for a minute or so)

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Jul 15, 2010 19:41 |  #14

tgara wrote in post #10533326 (external link)
I have the BH-40 (bought 2 years ago) and it is rock solid.



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Jul 16, 2010 05:05 |  #15

mchong75 wrote in post #10544576 (external link)
Ok, I tested my RRS BH-40 with the following gear.

5D Mark II with battery grip with L plate
17-40L

I angled the ball head in several different positions and it didn't sag at all. (each position, i left it there for a minute or so)

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Wow! Impressive! Thanks for the test. While looking through the viewfinder, focus on a small precise subject, a letter in a newspaper headline or something, and lock it down. Does it stay exactly where you want it (While still looking through the viewfinder)? I may have to send mine back. Your camera is heavier than mine (with the battery grip).


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