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Apr 05, 2011 14:58 |  #1756

I noticed the extra ceiling too (and other added elements) but the way I see it, if I was looking to buy one of these places, I'd be happy to see the ceiling and as much of the room as possible. So I think it's good! And, I wouldn't be thinking, my God!! that wall looks slanted in a funny direction in this photo, so that MUST mean it looks like that in real life too! ok I don't think I am interested in this home anymore. what is this some kind of clown house you see at the circus?


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Apr 05, 2011 15:41 |  #1757

the point is that is looks bigger in the photos than in real life, which is generally frowned upon, and since scott is a big boy i know he can handle a little critique, especially since he is moving onward and upward ;)


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Apr 05, 2011 15:56 |  #1758

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Thank you all for the encouragements! I am going to the give the agency up to 2 weeks to decide. After that is s**t or get off the pot! lol

Thank you. The key here is WB control before and after merging photos in photomatix. The great thing about the colour saturation controls in Adobe Camera Raw (I use through Adobe Bridge) is you can control different colours individually. I pretty much always pull back on the blues and yellows/oranges. This helps control the ugly blue/orange colour that often comes from window light and interior lights. After saving TIFFs from PM I go back to bridge/raw and tweak some more. Often cutting more blue/orange. Then in photoshop, if needed, I will make some more tweaks. For instance in the bedroom shot the ceiling light did have some unwanted yellow/orange going on. What I did was use the lasso tool and selected the entire ceiling then made and hue/saturation adjustment layer and pulled back on the saturation until I was satisfied. I'll also do this if there are other colour casts in the image by making a selection using the "color range" selection tool then using another hue/saturation adjustment layer to pull back saturation. I usually only do this for white surfaces where there is unwanted colour. I also did this for the green bathroom shot. The cabinets in the foreground were lit up by window light from another room behind me and created a blue colour cast.

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Apr 05, 2011 16:25 |  #1759

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the point is that is looks bigger in the photos than in real life, which is generally frowned upon, and since scott is a big boy i know he can handle a little critique, especially since he is moving onward and upward ;)

sure, as you gave your input, I gave mine. if I was looking to buy that place and saw those photos, I would think the place looks nice and I'd like to see it. I would know, as a buyer, that while photos are nice you cannot base your purchase on them. That's why you go see places. So I would go and see, and see if I like it, in real life also. I don't think there's any way you can accurately represent a room's size from a photo. The buyer can only use it as a representation from which to decide whether they are interested. As long as the photo is not some weird panoramic stitch making the room look warped and skewed abnormally (which the photos in question are clearly not), I think the photo is OK. While you do not want photos to give the viewer a wrong impression, you also want to get the viewer's attention, and get them to want to come see the property. That being said, I think it's OK to make the photos more appealing, thereof.


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Apr 05, 2011 17:36 |  #1760

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you also want to get the viewer's attention, and get them to want to come see the property. .


which is why we crop the excess to focus attention on the selling points, no?


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Apr 05, 2011 17:37 |  #1761

I'll agree with that. I'm just saying, I don't think showing the ceiling on those shots is bad for em. My opinion.

edit: to add, I actually noticed the ceiling and felt the shots were BETTER because of them - because, it shows the whole lighting fixture and the ceiling material. It shows more of the whole room.


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Apr 05, 2011 18:05 |  #1762

you know, when I first looked at those photos, I thought the rooms had sloping ceilings. now looking at them again, that appears to be a distortion. I didn't notice that at first because it looked so natural. If none of those rooms actually have sloped ceilings, then I can see an issue with the photos.


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Apr 05, 2011 18:17 |  #1763

Thanks Mike. While I hear what you are saying I also don't feel they need cropping. This house was different and has a very high vaulted ceiling and I wanted to make sure the photos showed that feature. The Last shot was a cramped tiny little bathroom in the basement and I wanted to include the room and not just focus on the toilet. The green bathroom also has a high sloped ceiling. So there really isn't any distortion that I can see.


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Apr 05, 2011 21:16 as a reply to  @ TheReal7's post |  #1764

Ok I think I've came up with something to put in this thread. This is my first real attempt.

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opened in Camera Raw adjusted white balance again, took out some of the blue then opened in PS (CS4) saved as jpeg and uploaded.
7 frame -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | Byte size: ZERO


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What can I do to improve this besides eat a bullet. I've got to hand it to you guys I thought I could hold my own as a photog but this stuff is hard as hell.

Ok I guess I'm stupid. I can't figure out how to link the picture.

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Apr 05, 2011 23:04 |  #1765

P12,

For a first attempt that is nothing to scoff at whatsoever. There is still a little blue color cast in the reflections but it's not too worrysome for RE photography. As far as the flare from the windows, that will happen when it's extremely bright or blown out and you're not using a flash frame. It's just a result of the software not being able to judge what is right and wrong in my experience. Situations like this are why I blend flash frames to get a good, sharp window with an HDR frame or hand blend frames. More time consuming, but I'm a perfectionist.

Though again, nothing major to worry about. I'd say that's a solid first attempt.


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Apr 06, 2011 07:03 as a reply to  @ mikekelley's post |  #1766

Thanks for the feedback Mike. I was hoping that the flare on the windows was due to DR and software instead of a lens issue. next I will try a flash frame in the mix.

On another issue, I noticed after uploading the clock face next to the recliner looks like I got some camera movement.


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Apr 06, 2011 09:10 as a reply to  @ P12's post |  #1767

Can someone explain to me what I may be doing wrong so I can link to pictures from flickr?


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Apr 06, 2011 10:08 |  #1768

P12, On top of your picture, you will see small envelope, FB, twitter icons. Click the arrow next to those icons and you will see options to copy paste the HTML code. What you want to do is type

IMAGE NOT FOUND
Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE
after ".........z.jpg"

Click "quote" reply my post and you'll see how I posted your picture.

IMAGE NOT FOUND
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Apr 06, 2011 11:19 as a reply to  @ joonrhee's post |  #1769

Got it. Thanks joonrhee


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Apr 06, 2011 12:41 |  #1770

For those that do HDR....do any of you apply NR before you blend/merge the images? Or, do you just let the software apply the NR during the process?

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