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Aug 08, 2015 18:42 |  #7336

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Aug 08, 2015 21:08 |  #7337

digirebelva wrote in post #17661413 (external link)
Yes, I know, the power cord..

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Aug 09, 2015 18:25 |  #7338

The more I use the HDR merge in LR the less impressed I am. I'm probably just doing it wrong. The colors always seem to be muted and the windows never come out as expected. I've yet to try doing 5 brackets with only flash. Everything has been mostly ambient with 1 flash bracket (which I can't even tell from all ambient).

And on top of it all the HDR process takes twice as long.


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Aug 09, 2015 20:41 as a reply to  @ tytlyf's post |  #7339

For the one shot I tried it on that was a landscape image... It still required quite a bit of post work on the .dng file. The blended image is still a RAW file that needs to be edited as if it was a single image.


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Aug 09, 2015 21:03 |  #7340

tytlyf wrote in post #17662635 (external link)
and the windows never come out as expected.

Two things:

First, what are you expecting your windows to look like final image..? The brighter the window pulls, the brighter the output is going to be. I always go through and turn down my highlights in the brightest image and sync that with the rest of the stack. What are metering on exposure wise..?

2. Make sure you don't have Auto align turned on if you used a tripod (it's not necessary unless you handhold). It will slow the process down considerably. When it's not on, the LR HDR process is twice as fast as the Enfuse plugin. When it's taking longer than expected, then I know I forgot to turn it back off...


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Aug 09, 2015 21:10 |  #7341

tytlyf wrote in post #17662635 (external link)
The more I use the HDR merge in LR the less impressed I am. I'm probably just doing it wrong. The colors always seem to be muted and the windows never come out as expected. I've yet to try doing 5 brackets with only flash. Everything has been mostly ambient with 1 flash bracket (which I can't even tell from all ambient).

And on top of it all the HDR process takes twice as long.

How many brackets are you making on site? Do you always merge them all? What is the spacing of your brackets? I have found that 1 stop is pretty much the sweet spot for spacing. I almost always make 7 on site but only merge 4 or 5 and they are always adjacent - I don't skip any. Also most of the time the ones I don't use are the brightest because the blown highlights will bleed into adjacent pixels (blooming) causing the highlights to not blend successfully. Just a few of my experiences FWIW.

Do you know you can process several HDR successively? Instead of choosing "merge to HDR" from the menu (or control H), press control shift H and you can skip the preview which is the step that takes so much time takes over your computer. Immediately after beginning the merge on one set, you can start another. I have done up to 10 at a time but my machine (24Gb RAM) slows at about 6 so I don't push it beyond that. Using control shift H is almost a batch process and speeds things up a great deal.


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Aug 10, 2015 06:01 |  #7342

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Do you know you can process several HDR successively? Instead of choosing "merge to HDR" from the menu (or control H), press control shift H and you can skip the preview .

Nice, thanks for the tip..:-D


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Aug 10, 2015 08:16 |  #7343

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How many brackets are you making on site? Do you always merge them all? What is the spacing of your brackets? I have found that 1 stop is pretty much the sweet spot for spacing. I almost always make 7 on site but only merge 4 or 5 and they are always adjacent - I don't skip any. Also most of the time the ones I don't use are the brightest because the blown highlights will bleed into adjacent pixels (blooming) causing the highlights to not blend successfully. Just a few of my experiences FWIW.

Do you know you can process several HDR successively? Instead of choosing "merge to HDR" from the menu (or control H), press control shift H and you can skip the preview which is the step that takes so much time takes over your computer. Immediately after beginning the merge on one set, you can start another. I have done up to 10 at a time but my machine (24Gb RAM) slows at about 6 so I don't push it beyond that. Using control shift H is almost a batch process and speeds things up a great deal.

I didn't know you could do this. I REALLLLLY need to step away from PS and start using LR.


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Aug 11, 2015 17:16 |  #7344

digirebelva wrote in post #17662825 (external link)
Two things:

First, what are you expecting your windows to look like final image..? The brighter the window pulls, the brighter the output is going to be. I always go through and turn down my highlights in the brightest image and sync that with the rest of the stack. What are metering on exposure wise..?

2. Make sure you don't have Auto align turned on if you used a tripod (it's not necessary unless you handhold). It will slow the process down considerably. When it's not on, the LR HDR process is twice as fast as the Enfuse plugin. When it's taking longer than expected, then I know I forgot to turn it back off...

I just want my lowest exposure windows to be used in the final merged image. The HDR merge never keeps the 'perfect' window exposure, it's always a half stop or more brighter.
I haven't tried unchecking 'auto align', I may give that a go. I'm bracketing with usually 1 stop increments depending on the dynamic range of the scene (bright windows).


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Aug 11, 2015 17:47 |  #7345

tytlyf wrote in post #17665305 (external link)
I just want my lowest exposure windows to be used in the final merged image. The HDR merge never keeps the 'perfect' window exposure, it's always a half stop or more brighter.
I haven't tried unchecking 'auto align', I may give that a go. I'm bracketing with usually 1 stop increments depending on the dynamic range of the scene (bright windows).

I don't know what your darkest window looks like but if you really want a pull that's balanced with inside, you may have to do some hand work in PS. But, if i may suggest, most windows look better (even though it's not accurate to what we see live) slightly lighter than the room. If the window is too dark it looks more like artwork on the wall and the image seems to lose some sense of depth. Unless the outside view is really spectacular, let it go a little light. I didn't make that up - I read the same analysis from Scott Hargis after I arrived at that conclusion on my own.


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Aug 11, 2015 17:52 as a reply to  @ rgs's post |  #7346

Exactly, I only make an effort to save windows when there is a breathtaking view. Otherwise the windows detract from the interior.




  
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Aug 11, 2015 19:11 |  #7347

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Exactly, I only make an effort to save windows when there is a breathtaking view. Otherwise the windows detract from the interior.

Depends on what the interior looks like :lol:


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Aug 12, 2015 23:51 |  #7348

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Here are a few recent interiors that I've been meaning to share, CC always welcome:


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I haven't looked at this thread in a while because it reminds me how depressing my photography life has been since starting my full-time job. Excellent shot. The second pictures is really warm and inviting. The first one's got a really neat clean feel coming from the reflective white panels, the counter and chairs. I'm not sure how I feel about the walls though. You might be getting some color variation from the lights, or perhaps there's something going on with the wide angle lens at the edges? Either way, still a strong shot, just a few nitpicking suggestions to complete the image.


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Aug 13, 2015 07:37 |  #7349

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Aug 13, 2015 07:55 as a reply to  @ digirebelva's post |  #7350

^^looks very inviting and natural.


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