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Jul 17, 2010 05:21 |  #1

Ok, take this all apart as much as you want - I'd really love to hear what you think.

I had to book my tickets in advance (39€ + 9€ for my seats on the train) - and the cloudy day wasn't ideal...

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Jul 17, 2010 09:39 |  #2

I'd bump up the exposure and apply a little more contrast.


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Jul 17, 2010 09:45 |  #3

windpig wrote in post #10553170 (external link)
I'd bump up the exposure and apply a little more contrast.

Would you do the edit?

I'm not sure how I can do that without making it look rather "fake"...


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Jul 17, 2010 09:57 |  #4

a quick stab at it.


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Jul 17, 2010 10:48 |  #5

windpig wrote in post #10553239 (external link)
a quick stab at it.

Thanks :)
My feeling is that the brick looks much better than in mine - but the roof is too bright :(
But it does have its charm too :)


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Jul 17, 2010 13:46 as a reply to  @ DetlevCM's post |  #6

Crop or clone out the tree on the right side, and clone out the top tree at the left.
And Instead of playing with exposure and contrast so much, try adjusting curves, you can get more selective with your colors that way.


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Jul 17, 2010 13:51 |  #7

windpig wrote in post #10553239 (external link)
a quick stab at it.


I love this edit and would never know the roof was too bright if you hadnt said it. It looks good and normal like this


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Jul 17, 2010 20:37 |  #8

I like the gloominess of the first, the subsequent edits seem to highlight the previously hidden bikes which are now distracting. There is also lens distortion which has created a weird falling in to the canal type look.


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Jul 17, 2010 20:52 |  #9

I don't know much, but I like the OP version. The "gloomy" sky works for me.


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Jul 18, 2010 02:48 |  #11

droberts wrote in post #10554098 (external link)
Crop or clone out the tree on the right side, and clone out the top tree at the left.
And Instead of playing with exposure and contrast so much, try adjusting curves, you can get more selective with your colors that way.

Getting rid of the trees is a good idea - thanks :) - they do frame the image a bit, but not really at the same time.
Adjusting curves - hmm, I've played with them before, the problem is, once you actually try to do it very selectively you have to be careful not to make any colours look false - but I'll have a ply, thank :)

Edit: How do I clone out the trees? The "Repair function" doesn't work in either form and leaves a green mess - and the one in CameraRAW won't work for anything patterned in my experience - yes I never bothered looking up cloning things out of images...

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I love this edit and would never know the roof was too bright if you hadn't said it. It looks good and normal like this

Thanks :)

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I like the gloominess of the first, the subsequent edits seem to highlight the previously hidden bikes which are now distracting. There is also lens distortion which has created a weird falling in to the canal type look.

Thanks - bikes, something you can't seem to evade in Amsterdam - there are bikes everywhere...

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I don't know much, but I like the OP version. The "gloomy" sky works for me.

Thanks :)

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Don't worry about removing it :) - I placed the full version on the Skydrive so people can have a play with it - sometimes these "strange edits" can look interesting - not everything needs to show the "true colour" - I once had a play with a different image... http://www.flickr.com/​photos/detlevcm/452429​5048/ (external link) ;)


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Jul 18, 2010 03:29 |  #12

I don't usually edit other people's images but here's my take on it


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Jul 18, 2010 03:37 |  #13

OK - I used curves on this one:
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(And still don't know how to clone out the tree)

There is also an interesting question that crops up - I see people saturating the image a lot - at the same time, it looks oversaturated to my eye on my laptop - however, my screen isn't calibrated (I've ordered a Spyder... but its not arrived at the photography shop) - I know my laptop's screen is pretty good overall - but don't really have a reference.. so I wonder if its saturating my colours more... I'm not aware of that - I do think its a bit cold though (i.e. blueish)

But I did play with the curve - and upped the saturation a bit to get rid of that greyish colour...

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Jul 18, 2010 04:24 |  #14

Aside from the tree complaints, I actually like both the original and what Windpig did, but the later darkened "original" creates almost an eerie feeling; like everyone has abandoned the town, escaping the impending doom. The brighter edits make me feel uncomfortable and anxious, almost like it has become too happy and distracting.




  
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Jul 18, 2010 08:38 |  #15

I think we may be dealing with how peoples monitors are calibrated (or not calibrated). Most uncalibrated monitors are overly bright, therefore my edit may look overly bright on an uncalibrated monitor. My prints and my monitor match, before I calibrated, my prints were coming out dark.


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