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Jul 19, 2010 14:04 |  #1

I think its just an issue of when I tend to have time but I don't know WHY I insist on taking my already marginally cooperative kids out to shoot pictures at like 11:45 when the sun is straight overhead. What a complete bust. And as soon as I realize the light sucks I always kick myself but then it seems like I don't necessarily learn from it either.


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Jul 19, 2010 14:33 |  #2

This seems like an easy problem to correct.


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Jul 19, 2010 14:35 |  #3

Your lighting problem is correctable... it's the ugly kids that are the problem.

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Jul 19, 2010 14:51 |  #4

For mid day, take a flash and experiment with shooting in shaded areas and with the kids backlit, and use the flash for fill. Plus, try going out in the late afternoon or after dinner!


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Jul 19, 2010 15:07 |  #5

I tried to shoot in shade with fill flash but the problem I ran into is there is always a tree letting in a spike of light so I end up with a palm sized area of hair or face that is completely blown out or a big shadow across half the face. Obviously waiting for the right time of day is the easy answer.


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Jul 19, 2010 20:50 |  #6

imahawki wrote in post #10565599 (external link)
I tried to shoot in shade with fill flash but the problem I ran into is there is always a tree letting in a spike of light so I end up with a palm sized area of hair or face that is completely blown out or a big shadow across half the face. Obviously waiting for the right time of day is the easy answer.

Get your significant other to block the stray light with a rigid piece of foam or cardboard or something. Prolly have to stand on a chair or something, but it is effective. Or, find a large tree that doesn't have sunspots. Of course, you could just shoot at another time of day ;-)a


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Jul 19, 2010 21:11 |  #7

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I think its just an issue of when I tend to have time but I don't know WHY I insist on taking my already marginally cooperative kids out to shoot pictures at like 11:45 when the sun is straight overhead. What a complete bust. And as soon as I realize the light sucks I always kick myself but then it seems like I don't necessarily learn from it either.

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Jul 20, 2010 06:54 |  #8

@Ricardo - Are you talking about on my website? Every image on my site is mine.

@tim - I hear you. I am going to try again this weekend with hopefully the added benefit that maybe it won't be 96 degrees.


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Jul 20, 2010 07:35 |  #9

timbop wrote in post #10567497 (external link)
Get your significant other to block the stray light with a rigid piece of foam or cardboard or something. Prolly have to stand on a chair or something, but it is effective. Or, find a large tree that doesn't have sunspots. Of course, you could just shoot at another time of day ;-)a

Or buy a cheap multi reflector similar to this one (external link) (I have one similar except larger). Amazing the difference they can make - can even be used to shade.


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Jul 20, 2010 07:41 |  #10

The problem is that the 24 hour day is poorly arranged for photographers that have a family life. Really, we all have routines that conflict with golden hour (primarily sleeping or eating dinner).

When you want to take family shots, you need to just take control, and rearrange your day around the pictures.


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Jul 20, 2010 08:05 |  #11

I agree Hairy, generally the morning just isn't going to happen with kids my age, so I get a couple hours a day and they are during dinner, bath time etc. Not complaining, that's life I guess. I'll have to see if I can employ my wife to be a VARS etc.


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Jul 20, 2010 08:12 |  #12

TBH with family stuff, it is often a compromise between time restraints for them and light for you.

Unless you can modify or add light, you will often struggle to balance the two elements.


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Jul 20, 2010 09:19 as a reply to  @ neilwood32's post |  #13

Look forward to those cloudy overcast days :)




  
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Jul 20, 2010 09:44 |  #14

BTW.. Some of your shots are beautiful. I remember being inspired by the shot of your girls, looking out of what looks like a covered bridge, when you first posted it last year.. As I recall you mentioned that you were getting better results for candids by using a longer lens. I believe that the weekend before you posted that I had taken some candid shots of my kids that did turn out nearly as well, and thinking I've gotta start trying that.


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Jul 20, 2010 09:49 |  #15

WOW, thanks! And yes, overcast days do work well if you can then add a little light for pop.


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