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Which 70-200 for glamour/nude photography

 
albion14
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Jul 21, 2010 05:36 |  #1

Ok,well i suppose the new MK 2 F2.8 version would be the best.

but I have a the F 2.8 NON IS version,I bought 8 months ago,I love the quality of images,but its so big and heavy,I have problems getting in kit bag,I have a chance to exchange it for a F 4 IS version thats 5 months old.Would this F 4 verssion be more suitable for glam'nude photography than the F 2.8 Non IS version I have?

Thanks for any advice A14


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Jul 21, 2010 10:31 |  #2

The Canon 70-200/2.8 lenses in IS and regular are the top lenses for glam for Canon systems period. I would not give up beautiful bokeh at 2.8 for weight.

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Jul 21, 2010 15:40 |  #3

get to the gym and man up. keep ur 2.8




  
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Jul 24, 2010 17:46 |  #4

kvnkane wrote in post #10578772 (external link)
get to the gym and man up. keep ur 2.8


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Good glass are not light nor cheap. Get some muscles. :p Though, to me the 70-200 is a bit long unless you have a huge studio, I prefer the 85 or the 50, and you get to be closer to the model to chat/direct her.


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Jul 24, 2010 22:51 |  #5

Pretty much all the recent glamour shots I've taken in the past few months has been with the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II on the 5D Mark II.


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Jul 26, 2010 14:09 |  #6

I have both the f/4 and f/2.8 mkI. I tend to use the the f/2.8 more because I'm just use to using that particular lense. Don't get me wrong the f/4 is good, but you'll need to now its limitations if you'll be shooting in low light with a camera that doesn't do well with high ISO. check out my fb page to see examples of the f/2.8 IS.


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Jul 28, 2010 15:50 |  #7

Your F2.8 70-200 will take 99% of the shots that an IS or a MK 2 IS version will do. If your shooting flash then the difference of IS won't make much of a difference if you keep the shutter at a decent level.

I started with the F4 and now have the F2.8 IS, i'd never go back to the 4!


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Jul 29, 2010 03:06 |  #8

if I had the 2.8 I'd rather get a larger bag :-)
I have the f4 and indeed got it for lower weight and size since my camera bag is not only for gear when I travel. The 2.8 is very big, also not that practical when traveling since it just screams "photographer with expensive gear here!!". I'd love to have both, but that has to wait....


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Jul 30, 2010 16:05 |  #9

sspellman wrote in post #10576997 (external link)
The Canon 70-200/2.8 lenses in IS and regular are the top lenses for glam for Canon systems period. I would not give up beautiful bokeh at 2.8 for weight.

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Jul 30, 2010 16:26 |  #10

I shoot with the F4 IS, it has better sharpness than the 2.8 non is and is lighter AND has a slightler shorter minimum shooting distance requirement. If I want shallower DOF, I'll put on my 85 prime ;)

The new 2.8 IS II is pretty sweet, I do admit. But if $$ is a factor, a 70-200 f4 IS + 85 1.8 is about half of what it would cost for the big boy.


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Jul 31, 2010 06:19 |  #11

If you can afford the MK II, get it. I was nothing short of stunned when I got mine. Absolutely razor sharp at 2.8. Quite a bit better than either of the MK Is I had owned.

The F4 is good if you are shooting all day and carrying the 2.8 is simply not an option. At least, that's why I bought mine. I never use it.

In fact, I am thinking of selling it and my 24-105 F4. Both mint.


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Aug 02, 2010 22:44 as a reply to  @ charlesu's post |  #12

Thanks for all your helpfull advice.Especially the chap that made the observation that my non F2.8 version will get 99% of the shots a MKII IS version would get.

I have decided to keep my lens,and not get the F4 version.I have always been very happy with the wonderful quality of images,and the BOKEH,oh so beautiful.

I also got to handle a F4 non IS,And prefered the feel of the larger one,it felt like the F4 might blow away!.

So thanks again.Cheers A14


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Aug 04, 2010 09:21 |  #13

kvnkane wrote in post #10578772 (external link)
get to the gym and man up. keep ur 2.8

I second that notion!!!


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Aug 04, 2010 09:58 |  #14

In all seriousness, you should try using "bone support" instead of muscle to hold and stabilize the camera. In NRA/CMP High Power Rifle competition, we teach the concept of "bone support". Use your skeletal structure to gain support and don't muscle the gun onto the target. The same concept is applicable for large lenses.

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Note the back/flat of the arm upper arm is supported against the lower leg just below the knee.

I don't have a photo of me with a 70-200 in the standing position, but keep my support arm (left) close to my torso, just like when I shoot the unsupported standing stage of fire in a High Power Rifle match. Although, the main difference is that with a camera, my body is squared off more to the subject. Video of *rifle* standing practice session: http://youtu.be/_dgrU5​ydWyY?hd=1 (external link)

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Aug 07, 2010 17:52 as a reply to  @ ocabj's post |  #15

That sounds very interesting Ocabj,I would be interested in hearing and seeing more

about 'skeletal support' is there anywhere on the net I can find out and learn more?

I am a rifle shooter too,as well as into photography so what you mention sounds really useful.and would be to many others too.

Thanks A14


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