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Something lighter than a vagabond?

 
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Jul 23, 2010 07:03 |  #1

I've been doing some strobist stuff, but I'm thinking about getting an alien bee so that I could use it as a keylight in sunlight. No, I don't own a car, but I live in the city so I use public transportation. I know the the vagabond is a great deal but... weighing 20lb, I don't think I can get myself to lug it around for shoots. Is there any portable power that's not as heavy? I only need it to power one or two lights.


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Jul 23, 2010 07:27 |  #2

I think, if you're concerned about portability AND weight, your best option would be to stick with AA batteries and wireless triggers.



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Jul 23, 2010 08:06 |  #3

If only we can use those elinchrom ranger quadra AS power packs for AB's..or can we?


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Jul 23, 2010 08:20 |  #4

joosay wrote in post #10588636 (external link)
If only we can use those elinchrom ranger quadra AS power packs for AB's..or can we?

Monolights aren't the same as head-pack systems.




  
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Jul 23, 2010 08:38 |  #5

Without car, how are you going to carry lighstands, your modifiers, sand bags and so on. And I am not talking about camera/lens and other accessories.


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Jul 23, 2010 09:01 |  #6

bobbyz wrote in post #10588756 (external link)
Without car, how are you going to carry lighstands, your modifiers, sand bags and so on. And I am not talking about camera/lens and other accessories.

Well I have portable light stands that fit in a tripod bag, can use a PLM for modifiers, and my camera bag/the battery for sand bags. I don't need anything fancy, just something more powerful than portable strobes for daylight stuff.

btw I love it how that first sentence is more of a statement than a question.


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Jul 23, 2010 09:53 |  #7

There is a DIY pelican pack. Look over at FM.


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Jul 23, 2010 10:06 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #8

Our own Dave (tetrode) posted this DIY here.

Not sure if it's the same as the one on FM but it's a good one.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=820794


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Jul 23, 2010 10:17 |  #9

I've been a bit curious about these AA powered, 150 Ws lights (external link). Anyone want to do a review?


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Jul 23, 2010 10:18 |  #10

TMR Design wrote in post #10589202 (external link)
Our own Dave (tetrode) posted this DIY here.

Not sure if it's the same as the one on FM but it's a good one.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=820794

Thanks for the mention, Rob. That little pack works extremely well but recycling times (due to the small inverter) might be a bit too leisurely for some applications. At 300-320WS (or so), recycling times are fine. Moving up to 400-600WS slows things down. In any case, AIMS has apparently redesigned their little 180WS pure sine wave inverter such that it no longer fits in the Pelican 1050 case. At least that's what I've read on FM.

Help, in the form of smaller/lighter battery packs, may be on the way. David Selby on his excellent "LightingRumours" site mentioned a new Godox battery pack powered by NiMH cells (see it here (external link)). Apparently, other Chinese manufacturers have become aware of the market for these types of devices and other offerings in the pipeline.

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Jul 23, 2010 10:21 as a reply to  @ tetrode's post |  #11

There is actually quite a bit of dry cell technology that's going to break in the next few years and it should dramatically change what we see in terms of portable batteries for location work with strobes.


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Jul 23, 2010 10:23 |  #12

TMR Design wrote in post #10589302 (external link)
There is actually quite a bit of dry cell technology that's going to break in the next few years and it should dramatically change what we see in terms of portable batteries for location work with strobes.

Be on the lookout for some lightweight, high-capacity lithium-ion packs very soon.

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Jul 23, 2010 10:30 |  #13

Reevo,

I'd suggest buying a Thinktank international or Security roller bag. You can fit a kitchen sink in it and it will roll just fine. Its lifetime warranty and you can strap lightstands on the side of the bag for transport. I just bought an international bag and I LOVE it.

Also you can use the same exact strap that hold the lightstand and secure the light stand like a sand bag. I just shot some photos by the seaside (very windy) and my impact stand with Kaycee beauty dish didn't even move.

Just something to consider. I certainly wish I bought this bag years ago.


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Jul 23, 2010 12:23 |  #14

Didn't PCB just drop a hint about NiMH or Li-ion products a week or so ago?


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Jul 23, 2010 12:28 |  #15

Naturalist wrote in post #10588502 (external link)
I think, if you're concerned about portability AND weight, your best option would be to stick with AA batteries and wireless triggers.

How are AAs and wireless triggers going to power an Alien Bee strobe? :D

Or did you mean he should stick with Speedlights?




  
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