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Jul 23, 2010 13:50 |  #1

This past week I had the chance to go on a cruise and one of the most challenging things were to go out and shoot in the open decks. I know it sounds kind of silly, but the hard part wasn't the shooting per se, but getting rid of the fog that instantly covered my lens/camera (5Dm2).
The environment inside the ship was extremely cold and the outside extremely humid/hot/windy.
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Jul 23, 2010 14:13 |  #2

I always keep lens wipes in my camera bag, it gets pretty humid in south Georgia so I experience this all the time.

Edit- Just realized your from the South as well....


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Jul 23, 2010 14:20 |  #3

I live in Louisiana, I keep my camera in an insulated bag while it's inside. I like to keep my AC turned down to almost freezing in the summer and I don't have any problem with condensation.


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Jul 23, 2010 14:23 |  #4

Skiers have the same problem.
Glasses fog up and you can't see!
Used to walk into the chalet backwards,...I was a ski instructor for 35 years. Constantly had to go into the chalet to meet customers, and when it was cold out my glasses/goggles were always fogged up until I did that.
In your case I would prewarm my equipment. Get the temperature of the gear up above the dew point. Thinking more of a vapour barrier to keep the moist air away.

It 's not just the outside lens surface. Condensation from warm humid air will get into everything...
Lens wipes are a good idea, if my idea doesnt work. :)
I"ve been to Hawaii twice in April and never had this problem. So it must have been really warm where you experienced it.


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Jul 23, 2010 14:48 |  #5

artra wrote in post #10590588 (external link)
This past week I had the chance to go on a cruise and one of the most challenging things were to go out and shoot in the open decks. I know it sounds kind of silly, but the hard part wasn't the shooting per se, but getting rid of the fog that instantly covered my lens/camera (5Dm2).
The environment inside the ship was extremely cold and the outside extremely humid/hot/windy.
Any suggestions?

Note that while this is condensing on your lenses it is also condensing on all the electronics in the camera and lens. There are many instances of where someone has a camera fail, they send it in to Canon, and it comes back with a note saying it's water damage. The user is astounded (and angry) but it is exactly this scenario that typically leads to the failure.

Corrosion damage is cumulative as well.

You need to let your camera rise above the dewpoint temperature in an airtight bag.

Hopefully your gear is ok.

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Jul 23, 2010 21:15 as a reply to  @ JohnJ80's post |  #6

Yeah, my camera is fine, thank God.
It only happened once or twice and obviously I didn't keep trying, but it was the first time it happened to me. Perhaps is bc I use to shoot with 1D's and now I'm with a non 1D body idk.
I'm looking into getting a pelican desiccant and add it to my traveling bag...


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Jul 23, 2010 21:25 |  #7

artra wrote in post #10592723 (external link)
I'm looking into getting a pelican desiccant and add it to my traveling bag...

Forget any dessicant unless you use it with the equipment in an airtight sealed bag.

The way to resolve the problem of condensation is to put the equipment into a airtight sealed bag (such as a ZipLoc bag) while still in the cold environment. Take the bagged equipment into the warmer space and let the equipment warm up to at least the dewpoint temperature (the temperature at which moisture in the air condenses) before opening the bag and removing the equipment. This procedure will totally prevent condensation on the camera and lens(es).


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Jul 23, 2010 21:44 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #8

even better (and cheaper).
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Jul 23, 2010 22:14 |  #9

SkipD wrote in post #10592774 (external link)
Forget any dessicant unless you use it with the equipment in an airtight sealed bag.

The way to resolve the problem of condensation is to put the equipment into a airtight sealed bag (such as a ZipLoc bag) while still in the cold environment. Take the bagged equipment into the warmer space and let the equipment warm up to at least the dewpoint temperature (the temperature at which moisture in the air condenses) before opening the bag and removing the equipment. This procedure will totally prevent condensation on the camera and lens(es).

This is the method I use and it works very well. Used to spit on the lens surface and wipe it down with my finger. :) (not really)


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Jul 24, 2010 09:04 |  #10

artra wrote in post #10592723 (external link)
Yeah, my camera is fine, thank God.
It only happened once or twice and obviously I didn't keep trying, but it was the first time it happened to me. Perhaps is bc I use to shoot with 1D's and now I'm with a non 1D body idk.
I'm looking into getting a pelican desiccant and add it to my traveling bag...

Actually, you don't know that. Corrosion is cumulative and once started, continues. It's a process. It's just the pace that matters and has a lot to do with how much contact with moisture it has. If you are a cautious person, you might want to get it looked at and cleaned up a bit. Otherwise (and what I would do) is just keep using it. If it dies, and Canon won't cover it, then move on. Bodies are expendable to a certain degree.

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Aug 02, 2010 18:28 |  #11

I respect the answers here, but they're not that helpful. Why?

I find myself presently in South Carolina. My camera gear is in my condo at 68 degrees. It's close to 90 outdoors and very humid. The moment I take my stuff out, condensation/fog all over.

Airtight bag? Where is one to get that? I have the 5DII and 200 f2L. That'd be an awfully large ziploc.

I've taken almost no pictures because of it. I guess if I took it out for an hour or so it would disappear, but I'd have to be walking around and not riding in my car, that's for sure.

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Aug 02, 2010 19:10 |  #12

Well, you're going to have to leave it encased until it warms up to close to ambient temp. even if it's in a bag if you don't want fogging. Maybe leave it in your car trunk overnight, or get a Pelican (you know you want to, Mark) for it. Actually, almost any bag will do to keep condensation off your gear as long as the gear is in the bag until the temp. evens out. It's when you pull that cold camera out in a hot and muggy environment that you get condensation. My 70-200 was fine in my Domke coming from 10 degree outdoors (and waiting for the National Aquarium to open) to the jungle aviary (75-80 deg., at least, and rain forest humidity) until I actually tried to take some pictures with it.


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Aug 02, 2010 19:16 |  #13

Yup. Pelican & time will do the job.


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Aug 02, 2010 19:43 |  #14

Go to the store and find those resealable bags for storing clothes (sweaters) compactly after vacuuming the air out of the bag. That will encase a dSLR with 200mm lens easily, if it can fit a sweater.


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Aug 02, 2010 20:31 |  #15

MDJAK wrote in post #10649735 (external link)
Airtight bag? Where is one to get that? I have the 5DII and 200 f2L. That'd be an awfully large ziploc.

You could separate the body and lens, making it much easier to put each into an airtight bag. A gallon Ziploc should work for the camera body. There are larger Ziploc brand bags available as well, though they may be harder to find.

A simple plastic bag (with no holes in it, of course) tightly twisted at the opening and zip-tied shut should also do the job quite nicely. It just needs to be airtight or nearly so to avoid water vapor transfer into the bag when you first take it outdoors and while the equipment is acclimating to the warmer air temperature.


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