me english bad... what I meant to say was "you do make the wireless sound tempting Jon", ok my second attempt at it looks better lol.
danielr Member 44 posts Joined Apr 2005 More info | Aug 12, 2005 00:09 | #31 me english bad... what I meant to say was "you do make the wireless sound tempting Jon", ok my second attempt at it looks better lol.
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kevin_c Cream of the Crop 5,745 posts Likes: 4 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Devon, England More info | Just took the plunge and updated mine - got to about 20% and I suddenly realised that I'd forgot to take the lens off -- K e v i n --
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kenyc Cream of the Crop More info | kevin_c wrote: Just took the plunge and updated mine - got to about 20% and I suddenly realised that I'd forgot to take the lens off Doh!!All went through ok and afterwards the camera seemed to work ok. Just to be safe I then re-installed the firmware WITH THE LENS OFF - Does anyone know what leaving the lens on can do? It seems a bit "funny" they would have you take the lens off. But so is the fact that you can't load updates via usb. I suppose it is to avoid any "possible" issues, but it's hard to say without know exactly what the update program is doing/checking as it does it's thing. I did mine with the 17-85 lens on and had no problems. Kenny A. Chaffin
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kenyc Cream of the Crop More info | hgb wrote: The major update 2.0.0 was 4.5 MB in size whereas this minor update 2.0.2 is 8.2 MB in size. Can anyone explain the huge difference in size. I'm quite puzzled to be honest. Major and minor refer to the revision number i.e 1 -> 2 would be a major update 1.0.5 -> 1.0.6 would be a minor version update, it has nothing to do with the size of the files. Kenny A. Chaffin
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kenyc Cream of the Crop More info | OdiN1701 wrote: I am a computer tech...and updating firmware is kinda like updating the BIOS on your motherboard. I always recommend to NEVER update the BIOS unless the BIOS update has a fix for a specific problem you are encountering. If you are having no problems and things are working fine - don't update. That's my advice. Probably bad advice if you expect to use tech support. Kenny A. Chaffin
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lancea Senior Member 720 posts Joined Jan 2005 Location: New Zealand More info | kevin_c wrote: Does anyone know what leaving the lens on can do? Either the very first or the second update sometimes failed if the lens was left on. The bad news (there was no good news) was that it failed in such a way that you had to return your 20D to Canon. A new release was issued very quickly, but from then on they have always recommended that the lens is removed. Olympus C-50 Zoom; Canon PowerShot G9; EOS 20D; EOS 5D Mark II
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kevin_c Cream of the Crop 5,745 posts Likes: 4 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Devon, England More info | lancea wrote: Either the very first or the second update sometimes failed if the lens was left on. The bad news (there was no good news) was that it failed in such a way that you had to return your 20D to Canon. A new release was issued very quickly, but from then on they have always recommended that the lens is removed. I'm glad they fixed that... I could have been in trouble! -- K e v i n --
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MadMesh Senior Member 715 posts Joined Jul 2005 Location: USA More info | Permanent banNabil-A wrote: might want to try reinstalling eos capture? I tried both Mac and PC, both work fine. Canon 20D w/ 18-55 Lens Kit, 6 gigs CF Cards
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lancea Senior Member 720 posts Joined Jan 2005 Location: New Zealand More info | Aug 18, 2005 03:37 | #39 I saw in another forum where someone speculated they may have used a different compiler setting. Just in case you don't know what a compiler is - it's a programming tool that turns the developer's code into a file that will run on the camera. Compilers often have a setting that compresses the file and this may have been turned off. If they've added something, perhaps it's the ability to save RAW files in Adobe DNG format? Olympus C-50 Zoom; Canon PowerShot G9; EOS 20D; EOS 5D Mark II
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canonshooter Goldmember 2,242 posts Joined Aug 2005 Location: Arizona, USA More info | I am concerned about doing the updates in case something goes wrong. I got my camera just a week ago and it came with 1.0.0 firmware. Jim
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lancea Senior Member 720 posts Joined Jan 2005 Location: New Zealand More info | Aug 18, 2005 23:47 | #41 The golden rule is to never update your firmware just before doing something that you must have the camera for and cannot borrow another. Other than that, you should do an update as there have been some important bugs fixed since 1.0.0. Just make sure you follow the instructions, especially about using a fully charged battery, taking the lens off, and touching nothing till the udate completes. If you feel really uncomfortable doing it, find someone who's done it - or is at least has knowledge of these things - to sit with you while you follow the steps. I've done a lot of firmware updates of various things, and yes it can be a bit stressful - but it is a normal maintenance operation and should be viewed that way. You're not doing anything very risky. Olympus C-50 Zoom; Canon PowerShot G9; EOS 20D; EOS 5D Mark II
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kenyc Cream of the Crop More info | Aug 19, 2005 03:40 | #42 I was worried about the same thing a couple months back when I did it for the first tiem (and I'm a computer guy Kenny A. Chaffin
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J.A.F.Doorhof Goldmember 3,274 posts Likes: 15 Joined Jul 2003 Location: Emmeloord, The Netherlands More info | Aug 19, 2005 14:18 | #43 Weird it NEVER stops at 94% with my 20D, it runs down in a fairly fast time. www.frankdoorhof.com
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canonshooter Goldmember 2,242 posts Joined Aug 2005 Location: Arizona, USA More info | lancea wrote: The golden rule is to never update your firmware just before doing something that you must have the camera for and cannot borrow another. Other than that, you should do an update as there have been some important bugs fixed since 1.0.0. Just make sure you follow the instructions, especially about using a fully charged battery, taking the lens off, and touching nothing till the udate completes. If you feel really uncomfortable doing it, find someone who's done it - or is at least has knowledge of these things - to sit with you while you follow the steps. I've done a lot of firmware updates of various things, and yes it can be a bit stressful - but it is a normal maintenance operation and should be viewed that way. You're not doing anything very risky. In the worst case, if the camera locks then you should try removing the main battery and the small battery to reset the camera. Then try loading the firmware again. I am pretty good at computer issues so not sure why this makes me so much on edge. Except I read somewhere is something goes wrong the camera WILL lockup and the only fix is to send to Canon. Jim
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lancea Senior Member 720 posts Joined Jan 2005 Location: New Zealand More info | canon shooter wrote: If so some reason the download to the CF card goes wrong will it just not work at all? And the camera will be OK. You're not alone with feeling nervous! It's a bit like the moment when the hero of the film decides to cut the green wire ... But it seems silly that it should be this way because anyone involved with computers will be familiar with updating the firmware in the BIOS and DVD drives. So why would it ever fail completely? The only reason I can think of is that the updates sometimes or always replace the BIOS as well - not just the camera operating system. If that part fails then there's no way to connect to the card and read the firmware update. But you'd think if Canon can put things right there must be a way around this too. There must always be some basic hard-coded boot mechanism that allow them to "fix" the camera. When they say take lens off (hate to sound stupid) do you put the lens cover on or does it HAVE to be open? It makes sense to put the inner lens cover on the lens to keep the dust out, and by the same token it makes sense to put the body cover on. It's certainly not essential though. Olympus C-50 Zoom; Canon PowerShot G9; EOS 20D; EOS 5D Mark II
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