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First shot at the moon with new lens for C&C

 
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Jul 28, 2010 23:01 |  #1

Alright like the title says, it was my first shot with my 55-250IS

Please let me know what you think! Its almost a 100% crop.

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and a second one... Don't think I like this one as much, seems softer than the first one....

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Any tips would be appreciated on how to get better shots! Thanks!

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Jul 29, 2010 05:30 |  #2

i like those, but strangely i like the second one more. what was you exif data?


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Jul 29, 2010 17:09 |  #3

Thanks! Exif is as follows

First image
ISO 100
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1/8th

Second Image
ISO 800 (Forgot I had it set for indoor picture of the local play! ahhh)
250mm
F/11
1/100th


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Jul 29, 2010 17:22 |  #4

with a tripod? these will be extra impressive if they are handheld


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Jul 29, 2010 17:34 |  #5

Manfrotto 190XPROB and a 486RC Ball head ( I think that's which ball head it is...)


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Jul 29, 2010 21:15 as a reply to  @ CW Jones's post |  #6

I think you're a tad overexposed. Shoot a wide range of exposure times and you'll find the one you like best. You might open your lens up to about f/8, it might be a little sharper there. Your focus looks good.


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Jul 29, 2010 22:59 |  #7

I agree with Bernoulli .




  
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Jul 29, 2010 23:19 |  #8

Thanks, I will hopefully get back out there in a day or two


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Jul 30, 2010 05:08 as a reply to  @ CW Jones's post |  #9

Hi there,

As was said before, find the sweet spot of your lens (around f/8 I presume) and shoot like that. increase contrast so that the darker lava will be more visible... better to underexpose, there's no details in the highlights on the Moon...

other than that, focus seems correct, white balance as well (first shot).

Pretty nice lens... if you shoot a hundred or so and stack them (registax) you'll get a lot more detail. You have an excellent base for considerable improvement (technically speaking)

Nice job.


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Jul 30, 2010 05:45 as a reply to  @ ecce_lex's post |  #10

Stacking won't do you much good at these low focal lengths. If you're at high ISO and have noise from that you can eliminate it by stacking about half a dozen but these look pretty clean already. At ISO below about 400 and focal lengths less than a couple of thousand mm it won't provide any benefit.

Where it really helps is at super-high focal lengths, where you're limited by atmospheric turbulence because it'll average that out, but the scale of that turbulence is around a thousanth the diameter of the Moon so wouldn't affect this shot.

I usually don't even bother to stack at 100% crop at 900 mm, but I do find a little improvement at 3000 mm. I usually stack five or so there. Alternatively, if you down sample (reduce the number of pixels in the picture) that also averages out noise and it's the same as stacking a few shots.


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Jul 30, 2010 05:49 as a reply to  @ Bernoulli's post |  #11

I've found that regardless of any noise considerents stacking allows for a much more violent wavelet enchancement without the apparition of artefacts.

I shoot at 800mm and there is an immense difference between a 5 unit stack and a 105 unit stack.


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Jul 30, 2010 05:51 as a reply to  @ ecce_lex's post |  #12

Shooting the moon or deep sky objects?


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Jul 30, 2010 07:15 as a reply to  @ Bernoulli's post |  #13

the moon. wavelets (shapness of features) are useless on deep sky objects - you rather play with highlight / mid tones nebulas and so on.


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Jul 30, 2010 08:05 as a reply to  @ ecce_lex's post |  #14

Those are great shots with a 55-250, never thought that lens would give such good results, I must have a go with mine. Many thanks for sharing. :)


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