g11 poor pics

tmwag wrote in post #10648137
I doubt you'll need a flash for the environment you're talking about.
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Try Av mode, F/2.8, ISO400, WB tungsten (may have to experiment with different WB setting) and have a very steady hand or use a tripod.

Does not compute based on "I was indoors today shooting pictures inside a church that had very low lighting."

Just going by memory, the last church I shot in I was at ISO3200 and f/1.8 to get ~1/60s (obviously not the G11) Made me REALLY want a 5DII and 85mm f/1.2.

"I had very low lighting?" who knows what that really means. Just because you had to use ISO 3200 does that mean that's the standard for church environments?

tmwag wrote in post #10648370
"I had very low lighting?" who knows what that really means. Just because you had to use ISO 3200 does that mean that's the standard for church environments?

True, but if he's getting blurry pictures, there's a good chance that it's dark. And ISO400 and f/2.8 is not dark (depending on shutter speed requirements of course )

I just respectfully disagree that ISO400 and f/2.8 is a good starting point for low light.

Well, that's a reasonable starting point for a G11. If we're talking about a DSLR then we have more options of course. I guess we need the OP to post up a few pic's to get to the bottom of "G11 poor pic's"

tmwag wrote in post #10648520
Well, that's a reasonable starting point for a G11. If we're talking about a DSLR then we have more options of course. I guess we need the OP to post up a few pic's to get to the bottom of "G11 poor pic's"

Yeah, I usually hang out in the EOS forum(s), but I venture "here" once in awhile. I do have a S90, and I like that it opens up to f/2

I'm sure we ALL can agree that AUTO is NOT the way to go

please, i don't mean to start any quarrels on here. I have already stated that I am a beginner/novice and not familiar with the different functions of a camera. I had a Nikon D60 before this and in dark environments (while using in AUTO mode with the seperate flash attachment), I had no problems with pics in low light settings. This being said, and yes, I know its a big difference between a D60 and a G11, I was just wondering why I did not get the same results using the flash attachment on the G series camera.

I still have the original photos on my SD card (did not delete them after downloading) so I will load them to another folder and send the examples of what I was originally concerned about.

thread is useless without picts. edit smiley

gm134lex wrote in post #10649870
please, i don't mean to start any quarrels on here. I have already stated that I am a beginner/novice and not familiar with the different functions of a camera. I had a Nikon D60 before this and in dark environments (while using in AUTO mode with the seperate flash attachment), I had no problems with pics in low light settings. This being said, and yes, I know its a big difference between a D60 and a G11, I was just wondering why I did not get the same results using the flash attachment on the G series camera.

I still have the original photos on my SD card (did not delete them after downloading) so I will load them to another folder and send the examples of what I was originally concerned about.

You should also check to see if your white balance is set to Auto. Perhaps you had it set to something else that would not be compatible with the flash settings and the existing lights.

I've taken some shots at our church using my G11 and a 430EX II, and the shots came out fine. In order to get better light coverage, I set my ISO to 500, since ISO80 images were fairly dark. I also was in P (program Auto), so try using these settings and see what you get.

Dennis

Well if this helps, I have a G11 too and I love it, but I'm never on Auto mode. It ALWAYS makes the camera take horrible shots, and Program (P), TV, AV, or Manual (M) are the best modes to be in. I suggest if you aren't good with Shutter Speed, Aperture, ISO, ect., then try Program, but if you are good with all of that, then try Manual mode. It is my obvious mode of choice because it gives the most creative control. If you want to take a picture quickly, heighten the ISO and heighten the shutter speed. I keep the other setting at F4.5 or F5.0 most of the time, excluding when I'm on macro, when I always go to F8.0 or F2.5 depending on what kind of dramatic effect I'm trying to get. Hope this helps!

My receipe for low light, no-flash shots - Av mode, raw (so you can fix the WB later). Open up the lens as wide as it goes (f/2.8 at 6mm on the G11), crank the ISO to something "high" (start with 800?) and see if your shutter speed is fast enough for what you want. If it's not fast enough, crank the ISO more.

Adding a flash gets considerably more complicated depending on the room size, the ambient light, the "bounce" conditions (low white ceilings/nearby white walls are good, high black ceilings are bad), so I'll leave that for another day...

Trying to help--I used to photograph weddings.
A church can be huge, or small.
A large church will require a very powerful flash. Specially if you're using bounce flash, off the ceiling with a flash mounted on the hotshoe. In other words, a flash that isn't powerful enough won't perform in a large church where you have a long shooting distance.
Workarounds?
(First, not all churches will allow flash.)
* faster lenses --and you can't change that with the g11.
* change the ISO (but as you increase the ISO the noise may increase.

We haven't seen your photos, but others here have said they need to see the photos that you're not happy with to suggest a change for you.

When relatives have problems like the ones you describe, I've usually found that changing the settings on the camera or providing a little help isall that's necessary to get them going producing good images.
DaveL

This may sound obvious, but check to see if the Image Stabilization is on.

I just missed a ton of good shots at a concert because I forgot I turned off the IS a while back. It didn't matter in daylight, but at a concert in low light it made a HUGE difference. I couldn't shoot RAW at all, and of the auto shots, only a handful are worth keeping. I just couldn't figure out what the problem was until I looked at the exif data when I got home.

alright, I gathered up 23 "unedited" photos, some I thought cam out very good, others like crap. (they somehow ended up backward not in order). Canon G11 w/430 EX II flash attached. IMO:

good pics:

more pics:

good:
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0172.jpg
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0171.jpg
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0170.jpg

bad:
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0199.jpg
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0193.jpg
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0191.jpg
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0185.jpg

bad:
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0176.jpg
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0175.jpg
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0168.jpg
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0166.jpg
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0162.jpg

good
http://i166.photobucke​t.com …anon%20forum/IM​G_0248.jpg

again, THANK YOU in advance for all your help!!!!!!

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