I snagged this photo at the Rockford IL Airshow earlier today and I am curious to know just how close he was....
I have an even better photo that was take right before this one and of course there is a light tower blocking part of the plane.
CTP Senior Member 353 posts Likes: 3 Joined Feb 2010 Location: Northern Illinois More info | Aug 01, 2010 21:20 | #1 I snagged this photo at the Rockford IL Airshow earlier today and I am curious to know just how close he was.... I have an even better photo that was take right before this one and of course there is a light tower blocking part of the plane. EOS R + 5D4, 16-35L II, 24L TS-E II, 24L II, 50L, 85L II, 100L, 135L, 70-200L 2.8 IS II, RF 28-70L, 580ex IIx2
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Desertraptor Cream of the Crop More info | Aug 01, 2010 21:22 | #2 Nice shot but I don't think the vapour cone has anything to do with the sound barrier and more to do with atmospheric conditions at the time. Peter
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xMClass Goldmember 2,203 posts Joined Jun 2008 Location: California More info | Aug 01, 2010 21:23 | #3 If this is at an airshow they aren't allowed to. -Mikey
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Aug 01, 2010 21:24 | #4 Yeah I really don't know either, for what its worth no other plane, F-4, F-15, F-16 that was there developed a cone like this entire day. EOS R + 5D4, 16-35L II, 24L TS-E II, 24L II, 50L, 85L II, 100L, 135L, 70-200L 2.8 IS II, RF 28-70L, 580ex IIx2
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Scatterbrained Cream of the Crop 8,511 posts Gallery: 267 photos Best ofs: 12 Likes: 4607 Joined Jan 2010 Location: Yomitan, Okinawa, Japan More info | Aug 01, 2010 21:27 | #5 did it make a loud boom? VanillaImaging.com
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Aug 01, 2010 21:30 | #6 It never passed the speed of sound, as xMClass pointed out, that is something that is not allowed in civilian airspace. I am more curious as to how close he got to that barrier.. EOS R + 5D4, 16-35L II, 24L TS-E II, 24L II, 50L, 85L II, 100L, 135L, 70-200L 2.8 IS II, RF 28-70L, 580ex IIx2
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Scatterbrained Cream of the Crop 8,511 posts Gallery: 267 photos Best ofs: 12 Likes: 4607 Joined Jan 2010 Location: Yomitan, Okinawa, Japan More info | Aug 01, 2010 21:39 | #7 CTP wrote in post #10644321 It never passed the speed of sound, as xMClass pointed out, that is something that is not allowed in civilian airspace. I am more curious as to how close he got to that barrier.. Not allowed and not done are two different things. . . . VanillaImaging.com
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MizzouMan_2000 Goldmember 1,699 posts Likes: 258 Joined Jan 2008 Location: Peoria, IL Area More info | Aug 01, 2010 21:47 | #8 Could you imagine the damage done if he broke the sound barrier at that low of an altitude? Have you ever seen the episode of Mythbusters where they tried it out with the Blue Angels? It was awesome
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Aug 01, 2010 21:58 | #9 Scatterbrained wrote in post #10644394 Not allowed and not done are two different things. . . . Good point EOS R + 5D4, 16-35L II, 24L TS-E II, 24L II, 50L, 85L II, 100L, 135L, 70-200L 2.8 IS II, RF 28-70L, 580ex IIx2
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Rick1930 Mostly Lurking 16 posts Joined Apr 2010 Location: Tokyo More info | Aug 01, 2010 22:50 | #10 CTP wrote in post #10644263 I snagged this photo at the Rockford IL Airshow earlier today and I am curious to know just how close he was.... ![]() I have an even better photo that was take right before this one and of course there is a light tower blocking part of the plane. Not enough information to answer that question. The vapor you saw is not caused by a supersonic shockwave, but rather by a sudden drop in air pressure behind a non-supersonic pressure wave created by the aircraft pushing its way through the air. 550D, S90, LX4
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Aug 02, 2010 00:47 | #11 Nice image, i know that the CAA limit in the UK for high speed pass is 0.95 Mach Martin | GearList | Website: My photography
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Aug 02, 2010 08:55 | #12 Rick1930 wrote in post #10644795 Not enough information to answer that question. The vapor you saw is not caused by a supersonic shockwave, but rather by a sudden drop in air pressure behind a non-supersonic pressure wave created by the aircraft pushing its way through the air. Details here: http://en.wikipedia.org …%80%93Glauert_singularity However, if you could visualize the shockwave off the nose of the aircraft, you COULD estimate the mach number.. formula and online-calculator here. http://www.grc.nasa.gov …-12/airplane/oblique.html For fun, pretend that WAS the shock wave.. it gives you a speed of about M1.7 or so.. The info I was looking for, thanks for the help! EOS R + 5D4, 16-35L II, 24L TS-E II, 24L II, 50L, 85L II, 100L, 135L, 70-200L 2.8 IS II, RF 28-70L, 580ex IIx2
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Magic24 Senior Member 547 posts Likes: 25 Joined Aug 2007 Location: MI - my heart is in da U.P. More info | The 18 pilot at our show says he does .96!
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ziyius Senior Member 407 posts Joined Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey (used to be MA) More info | Aug 02, 2010 19:54 | #14 Rick1930 wrote in post #10644795 Not enough information to answer that question. The vapor you saw is not caused by a supersonic shockwave, but rather by a sudden drop in air pressure behind a non-supersonic pressure wave created by the aircraft pushing its way through the air. Details here: http://en.wikipedia.org …%80%93Glauert_singularity However, if you could visualize the shockwave off the nose of the aircraft, you COULD estimate the mach number.. formula and online-calculator here. http://www.grc.nasa.gov …-12/airplane/oblique.html For fun, pretend that WAS the shock wave.. it gives you a speed of about M1.7 or so.. Nice formula Canon 1Ds Mark II
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LBaldwin Goldmember 4,490 posts Likes: 4 Joined Mar 2006 Location: San Jose,CA More info | Aug 02, 2010 20:55 | #15 Well I have bad news for all of you guys (lol). The Sound Barrier is broken at nearly all airshows, and airports every day!!. If you are ever near an A/C that breaks the barrier ENTIRELY then you will hear two distinct booms, not one. That's is because the front of the A/C breaks first followed by the rear of the A/C. The barrier is visible either partially or entirely on many speed runs. Les Baldwin
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