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Aug 03, 2010 20:52 |  #1

Hey guys,

I'm looking to pick up a tele-zoom for sports photography. I'm going to be doing high school sports events, as well as a range of other high school events.

I'm looking at:

Canon 70-200 f/4L Non-IS
Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

I will be purchasing a 1.4x TC regardless of the lens I pick up. I currently use a 50D, so the 1.6x crop will get me to that 320mm when the lens is all the way at 200mm. Which one would you guys recommend to me?


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Aug 04, 2010 00:05 |  #2

You'll need to ask yourself 1 question. Is the extra stop of light w/ the 2.8 going to benefit you? Both lenses are very good lenses, with the f/4 being the better of the 2. Some say that the 70-200 f/4L is Canon's sharpest lenses. I've had the Sigma 2.8 and it was sharp. Both are about the same cost. If you have a little time and money, you can always rent both lenses and see which one will suit you better. I don't think you can lose with either lens. I used the Sigma 1.4x (external link) on my 40D and it worked fine. The Canon 1.4x (external link) is great also. Something to keep in mind, the Canon 1.4x won't work with every lens due to the rubber flange around the front glass of the extender. Here's Canon 1.4x compatibility list (external link).


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Aug 04, 2010 01:13 |  #3

asysin2leads wrote in post #10658287 (external link)
You'll need to ask yourself 1 question. Is the extra stop of light w/ the 2.8 going to benefit you? Both lenses are very good lenses, with the f/4 being the better of the 2. Some say that the 70-200 f/4L is Canon's sharpest lenses. I've had the Sigma 2.8 and it was sharp. Both are about the same cost. If you have a little time and money, you can always rent both lenses and see which one will suit you better. I don't think you can lose with either lens. I used the Sigma 1.4x (external link) on my 40D and it worked fine. The Canon 1.4x (external link) is great also. Something to keep in mind, the Canon 1.4x won't work with every lens due to the rubber flange around the front glass of the extender. Here's Canon 1.4x compatibility list (external link).

It's a throw-up for me. I like being able to use lenses with wide apertures for low light situations. I know it's super-sharp, but being cropped, I probably won't use the 70-200 much on my 50D doing concert photography as it is.


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Aug 04, 2010 12:26 |  #4

TheAnt wrote in post #10657139 (external link)
I currently use a 50D, so the 1.6x crop will get me to that 320mm when the lens is all the way at 200mm.

No, your still at 200mm. The focal length of the lens stays the same no matter which body it is on, the field of view is what changes.


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Aug 04, 2010 16:26 |  #5

FWIW the rubber flange comes off quite easily. THen I can use it on my Sigma 120-400mm.


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Aug 06, 2010 13:46 |  #6

No, your still at 200mm. The focal length of the lens stays the same no matter which body it is on, the field of view is what changes.

But you effectively get more megapixels for that smaller FOV compared to an equivalent full frame sensor. Of course, as we all know, it's not all about the megapixels, so the OP's statement is kind of true, but not entirely.

Anyway, if you're shooting outdoor, daytime sports, I'd certainly get the f/4 and save a little money. That's what I use, and then I just switch to my 85mm f/1.8 if I'm shooting indoors. . .which is very rare, and then I'm generally right on the sideline, so I don't really need the reach. I also love my 300mm f/4 for outdoor sports. I find it to be significantly sharper than my 70-200. . .of course, it's a prime, so you lose quite a bit of flexibility (that's where it helps to have a second camera body).




  
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Aug 06, 2010 21:11 as a reply to  @ IslandCrow's post |  #7

I'm a little over half-way of having the funds to purchase a 1DIIn as my main body and using my 50D as a back-up. As far as I know, I'll be doing daytime sports, however I might use it for portraiture and concerts (if I need the reach).

I'd love to get the 300 f/4, but it's a bit pricey right now - we'll see how work goes this fall and if I can fund it.


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Aug 08, 2010 16:54 |  #8

Yeah, it's all gonna depend on whether you're going to shoot any indoor sports. I shoot all HS sports, so I spend a lot of time indoors, and that extra stop of light makes a big difference. I would like to get the 135 f/2L. But that is me.

If there is any chance of you doing any indoor sports, I would recommend the Sigma. If that is unlikely, the Canon is a better lens, despite being only f/4.


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Aug 09, 2010 01:44 |  #9

For sport, especially on 200mm or shorter, f2.8 is pretty much only option. It gives you extra stop, it gives you option to isolate athlete more (by blurring background), gets you much faster af (due more light) etc. If you are talking about shooting indoor sport, then there's no other way anyway, but even for outdoor sport, f2.8 is in my opinion only way to go. And on top of that, this particular Sigma is really great lens. Based on my experience (been working with it for quite few years before), it's completely on pair with Canon 70-200/2.8, and a whole lot better then 70-200/4.


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Aug 09, 2010 07:35 |  #10

Have you thought about buying a used Canon 70-200 2.8, here is one at KEH.com, I have bought bargain items from this place that look like they have not even been used. This one is in EX condition just a little more then a new 3rd party lens
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Aug 09, 2010 09:16 |  #11

I bought a used 70-200 f/2.8 on here. Mine is the non-IS, which is fine for me, since I shoot mostly sports. That is always an option, unless you really need IS.

But I do agree with primoz...your best bet is the 2.8!


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Aug 09, 2010 15:32 |  #12

I found out I WILL be doing indoor sports... Looks like the 2.8 it is!


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Aug 10, 2010 22:17 |  #13

For indoor sports, you might want to consider the 85 f/1.8 . Many HS gyms are caves and some will not allow lighting. BTW, which school did you get?


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